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Post by cyberhat on Nov 10, 2024 22:15:22 GMT
The whole Martha story is the most racist thing I've ever seen on television. Her entire season is dedicated to the white woman she replaced. How she's not good enough for the white woman that came before her. Don't worry, at the end of the season, the proper companion, the white one, returns. So the black one can, you know, can just curl up in her subhuman ball and die for all Cardiff seems to care. Then we find out about what happened to Martha. That South Park episode where Cartman thinks two of his classmates should get together for no other reason than they're both black. RTD does the with Martha and Mickey. Liberals are unaware Nazis part 312.
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 11, 2024 10:07:03 GMT
The whole Martha story is the most racist thing I've ever seen on television. Her entire season is dedicated to the white woman she replaced. How she's not good enough for the white woman that came before her. Don't worry, at the end of the season, the proper companion, the white one, returns. So the black one can, you know, can just curl up in her subhuman ball and die for all Cardiff seems to care. Then we find out about what happened to Martha. That South Park episode where Cartman thinks two of his classmates should get together for no other reason than they're both black. RTD does the with Martha and Mickey. Liberals are unaware Nazis part 312. Well I don't think that was RTD's intention at all. At the end of the day, no characters race is mentioned, and it's just a coincidence, but since RTD and his fans like tv tropes are fond of slapping bigoted interpretations over classic era stories, then go for it haha. Genesis is abelist simply because Davros is in a wheelchair? Even though again it's never said that he is evil because he's disabled, and he isn't even disabled in the classic sense. He's a mutant in a life support machine. Tomb of the Cybermen according to tv tropes, is racist because a black man plays a servant? Even though his race is never mentioned. The characters race wasn't specified in the script, he is meant to be deaf hence why he doesn't speak (granted that was cut, but the fans should know that by now.) There is NOTHING to suggest in the script that he is mute or stupid because he's black. Furthermore he actually gets a heroic role, being able to resist the Cyberman's control, kill their leader, save the day. If anything you can see him as a subversion of the manservant trope that way, though again I don't think he was intended to be ANY comment on race, one way or the other. I honestly think it was written as a guy who fights against the monsters and dies, and they went for that actor, because he was a really big guy. Still tv tropes goes as far as to include Tomb in their condemned by history section and write that it is a white supremacist story, Paul Cornell in a celebration of the Troughton era attacks it as racist garbage, simply because we have a black guy playing a bodyguard of a white character and that sends unfortunate implications. Okay then the RTD era as you pointed out, has even more unfortunate implications, with every single interracial relationship failing miserably. (Doctor and Martha, Mickey and Rose, Martha and Tom Milligan etc.) To be honest the Tenth Doctor comes over as a racist in general, as not only does he reject Martha, but remember there is that really cute black girl that is into him in Partners in Crime who he rejects, yet within minutes of meeting the other blonde haired, white skinned woman, Astrid Perth, he is kissing her? How is it any different to Tomb in that respect of, neither were intended to be racist, but the casting led to unfortunate implications if you squint hard enough? TV Tropes can either add the RTD era to their condemned by history or shut the f*ck up about Tomb, same with Paul Cornell and other wankers in fandom. As for Martha well don't you worry, this dorky Scottish guy likes her. I'll happily batter that grinning mockney for making her feel upset if she wants LOL. |
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Post by cyberhat on Nov 11, 2024 18:09:31 GMT
That's why I said unaware, so conscious intentions don't really come in to it. It's the same centrist mindset where someone can correct others for their wrong pronouns while cheering on a genocide. Same mindset, like in the past week, where people with LGBT flags in their bio say they want minority groups to die because they didn't vote for their preferred candidate. Centrists, which nupoo seems infested by, see themselves as the very best humanity has to offer, when in reality, a goose stepping little fuhrer is waiting to burst out of them the moment their comfort zone is even mildly affected. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/23/opinion/international-world/centrists-democracy.htmlThis affects their work. Consciously or not. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Nov 18, 2024 14:20:24 GMT
This interview almost feels like they're saying it's so bad it's good without actually saying it. That's definitely not the case with the Tom Baker era. There's certainly silly stuff but that's not intentional nor was it Holmes or Hinchcliffe's desire for audiences not to take parts of their work seriously. These people claim to be die hard fans, but that becomes harder and harder to believe.
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Post by iank on Nov 18, 2024 14:59:18 GMT
Pure self-serving gaslighting is what it is.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Nov 18, 2024 17:51:50 GMT
This interview almost feels like they're saying it's so bad it's good without actually saying it. That's exactly what they're saying; "Doctor Who has always been camp crap but that's what's so great about it...". Thus giving themselves an automatic pass for their self-parodic, superficial drivel. If good is bad and bad is good, then nothing they they write can ever actually be bad. Meanwhile, actual Doctor Who remains safely suspended in a state of nebulous indefinability. |
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Post by megalomaniacal on Nov 18, 2024 17:56:21 GMT
Not sure about the “wank” thing. More inclined to think there is a more… “flatulent” narrative that binds these idiots…
RDT1 – @2005. Starts with a mighty “brrrap!”, & to general applause from the good people of the UK. RTD Inhales deeply of his own gust. Believes it to be great. Keeps pumping them out for a few years, and then exits – (but secretly) intends to return – but with added fragrance!!
SM – Off the back of a previous cheeky, well received toot or two, expels a - to be fair - quite impressive conversation stopper to begin with… but it soon dissipates. And SM is left fanning the air frantically, in an embarrassing attempt to resurrect his former glory. The occasional waft of a previous win drifts pasts viewers’ noses, but – sadly - the splendour of that first, glorious emission is never to be repeated,. And so we end SM’s tenure with a “silent…” but not deadly…
CC – Arrives with a trick up his sleeve in the guise of a surprising gender-swapped “Tommy Squeak” (…thanks Vic and Bob) that attracts the attention of many idiots and a few devotees.
But despite strains for further “squeakers”, but there is “no gas left in the can”. And, sadly, the addition of a few old, familiar smells can’t really lift the aroma above the level of “elderly cabbage…”
RDT2 – And here we go folks!!! He lifts a cheek. He teases a sly-one out to remind us how great he was. He proudly strolls (commandingly) back onto centre-stage, declares “hold my pint”, and claims he’s doing “aaaalll the things you luuurve”, again!!!!! WAHOOO
..and, more importantly, this time he isn’t repeating the (HORRENDOUS) times in the recent past he actually used wheelchair users as villains, coz that just sucks. What a f*ckin’ hero!!!.
And so, RTD2 winks at the camera, takes a deep breath and goes for it …only to deliver the most devastating, horrendous shart ever to have been witnessed on mainstream TV...
In the meantime, step back and enjoy the attempts to back away from said shart… i.e. an absolute dick blaming everyone else for the aftermath, while Ten-not and Twatwa call everyone who didn’t like the resulting misasma of faeces, “ists” of very flavour.
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Post by rushy on Nov 18, 2024 23:08:23 GMT
I don't even feel anger anymore, I just find it depressing that people look at Classic Who and think it only works if you laugh at it. I feel bad for them. They're missing out on so much because of their own need to look cool.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Nov 18, 2024 23:09:40 GMT
Not sure about the “wank” thing. More inclined to think there is a more… “flatulent” narrative that binds these idiots… RDT1 – @2005. Starts with a mighty “brrrap!”, & to general applause from the good people of the UK. RTD Inhales deeply of his own gust. Believes it to be great. Keeps pumping them out for a few years, and then exits – (but secretly) intends to return – but with added fragrance!! SM – Off the back of a previous cheeky, well received toot or two, expels a - to be fair - quite impressive conversation stopper to begin with… but it soon dissipates. And SM is left fanning the air frantically, in an embarrassing attempt to resurrect his former glory. The occasional waft of a previous win drifts pasts viewers’ noses, but – sadly - the splendour of that first, glorious emission is never to be repeated,. And so we end SM’s tenure with a “silent…” but not deadly… CC – Arrives with a trick up his sleeve in the guise of a surprising gender-swapped “Tommy Squeak” (…thanks Vic and Bob) that attracts the attention of many idiots and a few devotees. But despite strains for further “squeakers”, but there is “no gas left in the can”. And, sadly, the addition of a few old, familiar smells can’t really lift the aroma above the level of “elderly cabbage…” RDT2 – And here we go folks!!! He lifts a cheek. He teases a sly-one out to remind us how great he was. He proudly strolls (commandingly) back onto centre-stage, declares “hold my pint”, and claims he’s doing “aaaalll the things you luuurve”, again!!!!! WAHOOO ..and, more importantly, this time he isn’t repeating the (HORRENDOUS) times in the recent past he actually used wheelchair users as villains, coz that just sucks. What a f*ckin’ hero!!!. And so, RTD2 winks at the camera, takes a deep breath and goes for it …only to deliver the most devastating, horrendous shart ever to have been witnessed on mainstream TV... In the meantime, step back and enjoy the attempts to back away from said shart… i.e. an absolute dick blaming everyone else for the aftermath, while Ten-not and Twatwa call everyone who didn’t like the resulting misasma of faeces, “ists” of very flavour. Excellent. Love the fart analogy. Analogy, now that's a bit of a dirty word. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Nov 19, 2024 14:30:24 GMT
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Post by megalomaniacal on Nov 19, 2024 14:40:12 GMT
Not sure about the “wank” thing. More inclined to think there is a more… “flatulent” narrative that binds these idiots… RDT1 – @2005. Starts with a mighty “brrrap!”, & to general applause from the good people of the UK. RTD Inhales deeply of his own gust. Believes it to be great. Keeps pumping them out for a few years, and then exits – (but secretly) intends to return – but with added fragrance!! SM – Off the back of a previous cheeky, well received toot or two, expels a - to be fair - quite impressive conversation stopper to begin with… but it soon dissipates. And SM is left fanning the air frantically, in an embarrassing attempt to resurrect his former glory. The occasional waft of a previous win drifts pasts viewers’ noses, but – sadly - the splendour of that first, glorious emission is never to be repeated,. And so we end SM’s tenure with a “silent…” but not deadly… CC – Arrives with a trick up his sleeve in the guise of a surprising gender-swapped “Tommy Squeak” (…thanks Vic and Bob) that attracts the attention of many idiots and a few devotees. But despite strains for further “squeakers”, but there is “no gas left in the can”. And, sadly, the addition of a few old, familiar smells can’t really lift the aroma above the level of “elderly cabbage…” RDT2 – And here we go folks!!! He lifts a cheek. He teases a sly-one out to remind us how great he was. He proudly strolls (commandingly) back onto centre-stage, declares “hold my pint”, and claims he’s doing “aaaalll the things you luuurve”, again!!!!! WAHOOO ..and, more importantly, this time he isn’t repeating the (HORRENDOUS) times in the recent past he actually used wheelchair users as villains, coz that just sucks. What a f*ckin’ hero!!!. And so, RTD2 winks at the camera, takes a deep breath and goes for it …only to deliver the most devastating, horrendous shart ever to have been witnessed on mainstream TV... In the meantime, step back and enjoy the attempts to back away from said shart… i.e. an absolute dick blaming everyone else for the aftermath, while Ten-not and Twatwa call everyone who didn’t like the resulting misasma of faeces, “ists” of very flavour. Excellent. Love the fart analogy. Analogy, now that's a bit of a dirty word. Heh. "Anal."  I think we have a shared humour-level. (But then, we are the same person... I keep forgetting that...) |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Nov 19, 2024 15:39:40 GMT
Excellent. Love the fart analogy. Analogy, now that's a bit of a dirty word. Heh. "Anal." I think we have a shared humour-level. (But then, we are the same person... I keep forgetting that...) Yes, I'm glad someone else has the "I haven't grown up since I was 12" sense of humour |
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Post by rushy on Nov 19, 2024 16:15:45 GMT
"You're anal as hell. I, on the other hand, am oral as hell."
I love Megalopolis
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Post by megalomaniacal on Nov 19, 2024 16:47:27 GMT
Heh. "Anal." I think we have a shared humour-level. (But then, we are the same person... I keep forgetting that...) Yes, I'm glad someone else has the "I haven't grown up since I was 12" sense of humour Promise me just one thing. Should the world end tomorrow (...which looking at the news today it might do, alarmingly...) never let it be said that you heard the name of the seventh planet from our sun, and didn't go "...heh heh heh." That is all. |
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Post by megalomaniacal on Nov 19, 2024 16:54:20 GMT
"You're anal as hell. I, on the other hand, am oral as hell." I love Megalopolis ...y'see, for a second there I got that movie title confused with "Zootopia" and was thinking "...they did well to sneak that under a PG rating..." |
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