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Post by burrunjor on Aug 22, 2024 22:06:45 GMT
Apparently in the 1970s when he was in the UK making some horror movies, Vincent Price saw a few episodes of Doctor Who and was captivated to such an extent he lobbied hard to make an American version with him in the role of the Doctor. Sadly he was unsuccessful, but the project did materialise as an obscure, very short lived series called Time Express.
Personally I would have loved to have seen an American DW series with Vincent Price. Again as I'm always saying I have 0 problem with DW being remade. Sorry but wanting the one canon to endure for all eternity is stupid. Let the original canon f*cking end and stop ripping it apart.
An American series set outside the original's continuity could have been interesting. Price would have been fantastic, and who knows what other great American actors he could have regenerated into after he left.
A really interesting what if.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2024 4:55:41 GMT
Matt Frewer of max headroom would've been a good successor to vincent.
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Post by iank on Aug 23, 2024 6:34:17 GMT
I can think of many potentially great American Doctors - Jeff Goldblum, Mandy Patinkin, Peter MacNicol, Michael Emerson - most of whom would have been far better suited than the ones the UK show is casting nowadays!
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 23, 2024 9:41:16 GMT
I can think of many potentially great American Doctors - Jeff Goldblum, Mandy Patinkin, Peter MacNicol, Michael Emerson - most of whom would have been far better suited than the ones the UK show is casting nowadays! The Doctor is a "shape-shifting alien who can turn into a cat" but apparently the idea of an American Doctor is a big no no for NuWho fans. |
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Post by burrunjor on Aug 23, 2024 10:27:10 GMT
I can think of many potentially great American Doctors - Jeff Goldblum, Mandy Patinkin, Peter MacNicol, Michael Emerson - most of whom would have been far better suited than the ones the UK show is casting nowadays! The Doctor is a "shape-shifting alien who can turn into a cat" but apparently the idea of an American Doctor is a big no no for NuWho fans. The funny thing is New Who fans and sell out classic fans that LOVE the idea of a female Doctor but reject an American Doctor are bigoted. There are obviously legit reasons to not want a female Doctor that we've been over, like it jarring from the previous males, it being a change too far, that clearly have nothing to do with not wanting female heroes in general. (Again I've created female led series starring Sophie Aldred yet I am probably the most opposed to a female Doctor of anyone.) Meanwhile there are also legit reasons not to want a black Doctor. Obviously a black actor could embody the Doctors characteristics, BUT, it would be more difficult to have him go back to certain periods in earth's history and meet certain historical figures if he were black due to the bigotry of the past. Whilst European and white western history obviously isn't the only part of earth's past the Doctor could explore (and ironically there are many significant periods where as a white man he'd stand out just as much.) As the show is made in Britain then obviously British history or western history will be the easiest to replicate by the BBC and the one the public will be most familiar with. That's not necessarily a deal breaker as you can have a Doctor not go into the past as often. Jon Pertwee had a grand total of ONE story set in earth's past. Also you could try the Xena/Blackadder approach of just not bothering with accuracy, but it's still a valid point to bring up and the Xena approach might not work in this case as ironically some black people might find it offensive that you're white washing how racist our society was, and teaching young kids of today that a 13th century English king would be okay with being bossed around by a black guy, whilst in reality as late as 1978 the Black and White Minstrels Show was one of the most popular in the UK. (I've always laughed at the idea of a black Doctor starring in a Town Called Mercy. Imagine a black guy with a gorgeous white woman in a provocative dress like Amy Pond trailing behind him thinking he is great, and trying to boss around a big group of hicks in cowboy times.) An American Doctor however? There is absolutely NO argument against it in any way. At worst you could say the Doctor embodies a certain British eccentric quality, but you know many American actors including Jonathan Harris, John Lithgow and yes Vincent Price himself were able to embody that quality just as well, as after all British and America cultures aren't so far removed from one another. Literally the only reason they don't let Americans near the show is because their racist views that Americans are big stupid, dumb gits who couldn't handle a show as cerebral as DW, and they would turn it into just dumb explosions, Doctor getting off with his companion and wreck the lore. Again when you consider what even the RTD era did to it, never mind the dross from the Capaldi era onwards it's insanely hypocritical. PS the yanks haven't had a bad history with DW in the slightest. They embraced it more in the 80s when the British were being snobby c*nts to it for instance. 9 million viewers in America during the 80s, vs 7 million in the UK, also DW fan club of America was the biggest in the world in the 80s, and it broke down all barriers with the DW fanbase being 80 percent chicks in America in the 80s. Meanwhile the only era of the revival the yanks embraced was the one most like the original, Matt Smith's era. They switched off in droves for Capaldi and didn't even watch either Jodie or Ncuti. So yeah based on that I don't see how they could f*ck it up any more than the Brits did. I'd much rather have had an American DW running alongside the classic era in a different continuity with Price as its first Doctor, and it being a combo of big budget remakes of old stories and new adventures, than the Capaldi, Jodie and Ncuti eras 100 times over. |
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Post by burrunjor on Aug 23, 2024 10:31:37 GMT
Matt Frewer of max headroom would've been a good successor to vincent. Max Headrom already has a strange history with DW haha. |
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Post by iank on Aug 23, 2024 12:01:26 GMT
Ooh, John Lithgow. There's another banger idea!
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Aug 23, 2024 12:22:27 GMT
Sadly he was unsuccessful, but the project did materialise as an obscure, very short lived series called Time Express. Is it any good? |
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Post by burrunjor on Aug 23, 2024 12:54:39 GMT
Sadly he was unsuccessful, but the project did materialise as an obscure, very short lived series called Time Express. Is it any good? Never seen it, but it only lasted 4 episodes. Its premise sounded a bit needlessly complicated and was more time tunnel than DW which admittedly I was never a big fan of. |
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Post by rushy on Aug 23, 2024 13:51:55 GMT
I can think of many potentially great American Doctors - Jeff Goldblum, Mandy Patinkin, Peter MacNicol, Michael Emerson - most of whom would have been far better suited than the ones the UK show is casting nowadays! Emerson would instantly be my favourite Doctor, before he's even uttered a word onscreen. I have the fullest confidence in him |
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