Doctor Who/StarTrek Lower Decks Crossover Video Game

[zarius]

...And instead of Ncuti, guess who they're promoting it with? David Tennant

[burrunjor]

I was going to say just that LOL. It's hilarious that they are using David Tennant instead because they know nobody is going to be interested in a crossover with RTD's avatar meeting the Star Trek characters, so they have to get a proper Doctor in, and well he's the most popular of their lot.

I will say though I'm still not that interested in seeing him meet the bastardised Star Trek gits.

I think the best crossovers personally would have been.

William Shatner meeting Jon Pertwee. As the third Doctors era was very closely inspired by Star Trek they'd have been a good fit. Venusian karate vs the Kirk Chop.I can also see a romance between Jo and Spock for some reason. Bad guys would be the Master working with the Klingons. I can see a scene with Spock undoing the Masters hypnosis and using the Vulcan mind melt to limit the Masters control over them.

Tom Baker meeting William Shatner obviously. I'd have preferred it if it had been Leela that was travelling with Tom in the crossover however. She'd have been a good temporary love interest for Kirk. Bad guys would be the Daleks who were building a base in this universe where nobody knew they existed to launch a strike against the Movellans.

Third crossover, Tennant and Picard, the two controversial sequels and would probably be the Cybusmen who had fallen out of the void (all crossovers would have to have Star Trek and Doctor Who take place in different universes as they're just too big and vast to take place in the same reality. You can't work in the Dalek invasion for instance into Star Trek's backstory, also I don't know I think that a lot of the Doctor Who aliens like Daleks might be too elaborate to exist in the Trek universe anyway. It's kind of like how Superman doesn't always fit in with Batman. Sometimes he does if its a Batman like Keaton or Conroy who've dealt with supernatural threats, but not if it's one like Bale or Pattison.)

However like I said I have 0 interest in watching the two modern bastardisations meet, and indeed I doubt most people are. It's like when Davros and the Master finally met in the Capaldi era. The Master and Davros was something fans had wanted to see for ages. It was every bit as big a deal as a Dalek/Cyberman meeting. If it had been Delgado and Wisher, Molloy and Ainley, Simm and Bleach, even Gooderson and the burned Master people would have lapped it up. Even if they didn't want those two villains to meet, which is fair as most meetings do tend to result in one villain being undermined, people would have still noticed and commented on it.

However because it was that bastardisation Missy who just was not the Master despite what they say, nobody even noticed that it was the Master and Davros onscreen never mind had an opinion on it one way or the other. I think that's hilarious actually that no review in the ten years since that story premiered has mentioned "it was good finally seeing the Doctors two greatest enemies" or even "I wish they had more screen time together." Even Missy fans and the sell out classic era fanboys who say she was the most faithful Master, more Delgado than Delgado. NONE of them even noticed that it was the Master and Davros on screen because clearly despite the bullshit, like me they don't see her as the Master, so it was Davros meeting River Song 4.0.

It would be the same if the modern trek and who bastardisations meet. Even there I'm thinking it's Tennant meeting a bunch of space cadets.

[zarius]

Did you ever read the Matt Smith/Next Generation crossover comic? I think it did have an issue where Tom met Shanter and they face off against Revenge-style Cybermen.

[iank]

FauxWho meets FauxTrek.

Thank f*ck it's just a video game I'll never play.

[ClockworkOcean]

Not even just Tennant, but specifically the 10th Doctor rather than the 14th. The current era is so toxic that even NuTrek is keeping it at arm's length.

[mott1]

What on earth’s going on with Star Trek lately? Childish stuff like this, the Kelvin films that seem to have killed the movie franchise, pessimistic and grim continuations like Picard and stuff like that Section 31 thing which seems to be content for content’s sake!

There used to be a time when a great TV show stood for being the best in that style. Now all you see are attempts to use their brand names to copy every other style to bring in fans who would never be interested in it normally. Nu Who arguably being the one that started it, of course, but Star Trek and Star Wars have taken it to a whole new level…

[iank]

It was handed over to a bunch of idiots who don't even like the original and want to change everything about it.
Rinse and repeat for every goddamn IP going.

[ClockworkOcean]

Aug 5, 2024 7:30:32 GMT mott1 said:

What on earth’s going on with Star Trek lately? Childish stuff like this, the Kelvin films that seem to have killed the movie franchise, pessimistic and grim continuations like Picard and stuff like that Section 31 thing which seems to be content for content’s sake!

There used to be a time when a great TV show stood for being the best in that style. Now all you see are attempts to use their brand names to copy every other style to bring in fans who would never be interested in it normally. Nu Who arguably being the one that started it, of course, but Star Trek and Star Wars have taken it to a whole new level…

That's how all of these iconic series are viewed by Hollywood now. Not as specific pieces of art with distinct identities, but as brand names to generate publicity for whatever product the industry needs to sell at any given time.

As for Star Trek in particular, the story of its downfall is strikingly similar to that of Doctor Who.

In 2003, control of CBS was handed over to a new chairman named Les Moonves, America's answer to Michael Grade, a man notorious for his burning hatred of sci-fi who'd been lobbying for Star Trek's cancelation long before he was appointed CEO. Incidentally, Moonves later resigned in disgrace after being exposed as a prolific sexual predator comparable to Harvey Weinstein. He canceled Enterprise prematurely and fired Rick Berman, handing control of the franchise to Alex Kurtzman, a talentless nepo baby hack who's been failing upwards since the 90s, jumping from one flop to another without ever facing the consequences because his father-in-law was a big deal in Hollywood.

Like NuWho, NuTrek began as a dumbed down, populist reinvention that retained the superficial window dressing but ultimately missed the point of the original, sold to the more self-loathing portion of the fanbase as the only way to keep Star Trek viable in the 21st century. Also like NuWho, it began a gradual slide into obsession with postmodern identity politics in 2013 before becoming utterly consumed by it in 2017.

The other commonality is NuTrek's knack for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The only part of NuTrek to receive widespread positive acclaim was last year's final season of Picard, helmed by Berman-era writer Terry Matalas with very little involvement from Kurtzman. Yet despite its success and Matalas' willingness to do more, Kurtzman appears to have frozen him out of having any further involvement in Star Trek, bitterly jealous that the first release of the last fifteen years to earn genuine appreciation from the fans was largely a rejection of his moronic "vision" of what Star Trek is supposed to be.