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Post by cyberhat on Jul 12, 2024 8:43:32 GMT
Moffat is Graham Linehan without the transphobia and less laughs Sorry I disagree with that. Glinner is a really nasty guy. He smears people as child abusers over nothing and outright tried to ruin Count Dankula's life with a "I want to speak with the manager" mentality. Ironically Glinner has a better track record as a writer as most of his stuff holds up, but far more unpleasant in real life. The only one of the Fitzroy Crowd who is possibly as bad is RTD for blacklisting Eccelston. I didn't say with the transphobia |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 12, 2024 10:01:18 GMT
Sorry I disagree with that. Glinner is a really nasty guy. He smears people as child abusers over nothing and outright tried to ruin Count Dankula's life with a "I want to speak with the manager" mentality. Ironically Glinner has a better track record as a writer as most of his stuff holds up, but far more unpleasant in real life. The only one of the Fitzroy Crowd who is possibly as bad is RTD for blacklisting Eccelston. I didn't say with the transphobia Oh I know you didn't, but my point is that Glinner's nastiness goes way beyond even transphobia. As big an arse as Moffat can be at times and as nasty as his comments about people like Tom Baker were, he still hasn't reached Glinner's level in my opinion, transphobia or not. Like I said Count Dankula was before Glinner's insane transphobic crusade, though it bares all the hallmarks of it. Tribalism, bullying, lumping people together as one thing, smearing people, guilt by association etc. Glinner's just that kind of a guy. For those of you who don't know Dankula is a Scottish comedian who made his dog perform a Nazi salute as a joke to wind up his girlfriend because she was always going on about how cute it was. For that he was arrested, fined and charged with a hate crime and his entire life was destroyed and his reputation smeared to the point where he couldn't get a job and was left broke and had to move to escape the attention. Glinner not only took part in smearing him as a Nazi, he also messaged a charity that Dank was using to fund his legal bills and told them "Don't work with this man he is a Nazi, hatemonger." At that point in 2018, Glinner was still happily married and by and large a beloved figure, ironically on the left. He was an obnoxious male feminist, and much like Tennant LOL, his wife kept his dick in her purse. He went on tirades about Trump being the devil, gamergaters being Nazis (he even accused Shoeonhead of being a 40 year old guy pretending to be a woman with a fake female avatar, again showing how well he researches things.) I did tell him at the time when he was sabotaging Count Dankula that sooner or later they'd turn on him, and he'd be like Cartman in the Sexual Harassment Panda case who sues Stan for calling him an ass sucker, but then later gets sued for telling someone to suck his balls and is moaning about how unfair it is. His response to me was "okay Gammon." To be clear I don't much care for Dankula either. He is a genuinely right wing idiot, but again difference between that and a Nazi and he didn't deserve what happened to him. It's all too easy to defend someone like Katie Waissel, a cute, bubbly dorky girl from a hate mob, but you have to do it for guys you think are pricks like Dankula too or else it's meaningless. That said I can't deny laughing at seeing Glinner succumb to the same witch hunting totalitarians he rounded up other people for. |
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Post by cyberhat on Jul 12, 2024 22:40:24 GMT
I was thinking of starting a thread about this, but bugger it, I'll do it here. If there is one word that I think sums up the most high-profile creative people of the past ten or fifteen years, it's petulance. The petulant Industrial complex. Creatives who not only can't take any criticism, but a media that treats that like an asset. Who then base their creative agenda on their own thin skin. Ruining old franchises deliberately to upset fans being the most obvious manifestation. This brings me to Glinner, who may helped start this trend, long before his trans obsession. The night that the first episode of The IT Crowd was broadcast. Glinner on his blog asked readers to give their honest opinions of it. Recently, Glinner had done a load of DVD commentaries for Father Ted, and was often hilariously hyper-critical, often over-critical of his own writing. So with that context viewers gave their honest opinons, some positive, some negative. Glinner immediately starts insulting anyone with anything remotely negative to say. Then does a follow up post where he posts a picture of The Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons to represent anyone not falling at his feet in praise of himself for the previous nights episode. He then follows that up with another post saying your only allowed to comment on his blog if it's praise. Cut to a few years later and he's ruined his life over, again, not being able to take any criticism over an episode of The IT Crowd. RTD/Disney/Ryan Johnson might have more socially acceptable politics, but that aside, it's the same thing.
The internet has been here 30 years and they still don't know how to deal with it.
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 13, 2024 14:44:34 GMT
I was thinking of starting a thread about this, but bugger it, I'll do it here. If there is one word that I think sums up the most high-profile creative people of the past ten or fifteen years, it's petulance. The petulant Industrial complex. Creatives who not only can't take any criticism, but a media that treats that like an asset. Who then base their creative agenda on their own thin skin. Ruining old franchises deliberately to upset fans being the most obvious manifestation. This brings me to Glinner, who may helped start this trend, long before his trans obsession. The night that the first episode of The IT Crowd was broadcast. Glinner on his blog asked readers to give their honest opinions of it. Recently, Glinner had done a load of DVD commentaries for Father Ted, and was often hilariously hyper-critical, often over-critical of his own writing. So with that context viewers gave their honest opinons, some positive, some negative. Glinner immediately starts insulting anyone with anything remotely negative to say. Then does a follow up post where he posts a picture of The Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons to represent anyone not falling at his feet in praise of himself for the previous nights episode. He then follows that up with another post saying your only allowed to comment on his blog if it's praise. Cut to a few years later and he's ruined his life over, again, not being able to take any criticism over an episode of The IT Crowd. RTD/Disney/Ryan Johnson might have more socially acceptable politics, but that aside, it's the same thing.
The internet has been here 30 years and they still don't know how to deal with it.
YES, perfect summation of these people. Glinner was always notorious even before his fall from grace for being an absolute arsehead for never being able to take any criticism. He earned the nickname Twitter Policeman as a result. There was even an article written about Graham exploding at his critics on social media like a big baby way back in 2012, which funnily enough used Moffat as another example of a celeb who couldn't take criticism on social media, though to be fair even that article said Moff wasn't anywhere near as bad as Glinner. In fact it even said that it was originally called a look at the conduct of Graham Linehan and Steven Moffat on twitter, before just deciding to change it to Glinner to avoid tarring Moff with the same brush. Still yes Glinner is similar to these people that way and if it wasn't because he put his foot in his mouth with trans people, he'd be one of the bullies cancelling other people and licking arse to get ahead. In fact I'll go one step further and think that Glinner isn't even that transphobic at heart. I don't think unlike these mad feminists such as Julie Bindel who genuinely despise trans people because they few them as men wanting to violate the sanctity of womanhood. I think Glinner probably did have some misgivings about the trans extremists and shared them because he thought everyone would be on his side and then when he was criticised he doubled down to the point where he went down a path he couldn't get out of. Now this is not to excuse him. Indeed that arguably makes him worse that it's all about his ego, but again that does seem to be the type of guy he is. With the Mark Meechan thing again after he rightfully got called out for it, he then went that extra mile to try and actively ruin Mark Meechan's life by making him broke from legal bills. Only difference is that the trans movement were not just one guy he could bully like Meechan and he ended up biting off more than he could chew. |
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Post by cyberhat on Jul 13, 2024 18:47:10 GMT
I think this Father Ted scene is the perfect metaphor for Linehan's career. Treat the car as his career, and the slight scratch as a minor piece of criticism on his blog comments www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1IpELCTX5w |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 13, 2024 18:51:00 GMT
I think this Father Ted scene is the perfect metaphor for Linehan's career. Treat the car as his career, and the slight scratch as a minor piece of criticism on his blog comments www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1IpELCTX5wOh we need a laughing emoji for this. f*cking perfect description. If you have twitter please send that to him. |
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