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Post by burrunjor on Apr 19, 2024 13:29:28 GMT
One of the most gorgeous, amazing and talented actresses and a huge favourite of mine. She has had an incredible career in drama, comedy, animation and live action (and also not a bad singing career too.)
However which of her most iconic roles do you like the most? Leela from Futurama? Peggy Bundy from Married With Children? Gemma Teller from Sons of Anarchy? Cate Hennessy from 8 Simple Rules?
Honestly this was hard for me? She was definitely at her most beautiful in 8 Simple Rules and her character in that is one of the most likable characters in anything. However when it comes to comedy you cannot top Peggy Bundy. Honestly she's a pioneer for women in comedy, being one of the first major female comedy characters who broke the mould in terms of not only not being the most reasonable person there, but actually being WORSE than the men around her LOL. She paved the way for the likes of Elaine from Seinfeld and Sweet Dee from It's Always Sunny and Cathy from Two Doors Down, all as funny as any male comedy characters.
In the end though I had to go for Leela. It takes a lot to make me fancy a cartoon character, but a combination of Katey's badass, yet vulnerable performance and her awesome characterisation made me fall in love with Leela as a teen LOL. She is the gold standard for leading ladies in cartoons and possibly sci fi in general as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by rushy on Apr 19, 2024 14:15:17 GMT
I've only seen her in Columbo (as a secretary in one of my least favourite films lol) and Lost. She was fine in the latter, I liked how much she made sense as a love interest for Terry O'Quinn's character. Shame they killed her with a brain disease off-screen.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Apr 19, 2024 15:20:57 GMT
Leela. I haven't watched Futurama in ages, but I remember liking her the most out of all the characters.
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 19, 2024 16:55:24 GMT
Leela. I haven't watched Futurama in ages, but I remember liking her the most out of all the characters. Always nice to meet a fellow Leela fanboy or girl. She is an amazing character. Honestly I prefer her to even the DW Leela who is also great. Funny thing is DW and Futurama share the same universe as the 4th Doctor has appeared in Futurama before. I can imagine if they met it would go something like this. Fry: Save Leela
Doctor: Why did you say that name?
Fry: You're letting him kill Leela
Doctor: WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!Anyway you need to give Futurama another rewatch it's a fantastic series, easily one of the best genre shows of the last 30 years. Meanwhile best Leela episodes for me would be. My Three Suns (definitely her at her most badass and sexy.) Leela's Homeworld (absolutely beautiful episode. The ending still makes me tear up.) Anthology of Interest 1 (probably her at her comedic best with the second bit in it, though I also like the second Anthology of Interest even just for the "there's no place like, I want to be a witch" LOL.) The Sting (another tear jerker and probably Katey's best performance.) Mobius Dick (she gets to save the 4th Doctor in this story. Seriously) Birdbot of Aclatraz (one's that are about her love for animals are always brilliant.) I second that emotion and The Day The Earth Stood Stupid (more just because I love her relationship with Nibbler. It's so cute.) Meanwhile skip at all costs The Late Philip J Fry. It is the worst episode of any tv show ever made. It's actually worse than The Timeless Children. Yep it's that bad, the Timeless Children doesn't even come close to plumbing the depths of this shit fest. Skip it. Food will taste better, men and women will seem nicer, the sky will shine more brightly, you'll be happier in general LOL. It really is that bad. (It's about 10000 times worse than that if you're a Leela fan. It's popularity is deeply, deeply depressing. Again I think of all the shit episodes and films that get lambasted whilst it gets praised. It makes me bitter to see even something like Batman and Robin get shat on when The Late Philip J Fry gets praised. f*ck sci fi fans and their stupid opinions.) |
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 20, 2024 9:34:29 GMT
Some absolute kickass Leela moments. No wonder Fry fell in love with her. I mean that voice alone, never mind the awesome personality.
I will say not to sound like a feminist (particularly a male feminist, the creepiest form of life LOL.) Women really don't have as good role models in genre fiction these days compared to when I was a young boy.
f*ck me between the badass babe above, and other original female heroes like Xena, Buffy, Charmed sisters, Ripley etc. That truly was the golden age for little girls who loved the genre, and it was so kickass for us guys seeing these awesome women take on more dominant roles. (And extremely sexy LOL, even with a cartoon, Cyclops character like Leela.) Then just around the corner we had my golden age of female singers, made up of the likes of Amy Winehouse, Paloma Faith etc, strong, bolshy, funny, witty, unusual looking women who wrote their own music, were in charge of their own careers and were industry outsiders who changed things on their own terms. Not to sound cheesy, but I think some of these women at least were inspired by these genre shows and the girl power mantra they pushed. Kate Nash for instance always cited Buffy as one of her biggest influences in life.
Today however? Oh my god! To start with this obsession with replacing established male heroes with women has tanked dozens of franchises, not because women can't carry them obviously as seen above, but because yeah people don't like seeing their favourite heroes replaced or changed to be unrecognizable. Sadly however the culture war pimps on both sides have pushed this, unintentionally in the case of idiots like JJ Abrams by lying that these films are the first time women have ever led something, or intentionally like in Critical Drinkers case who uses their failure's to push the idea that "women just can't lead sci fi and fantasy things, so don't ever bother." All of this has set us back to the f*cking 50s where people are no genuinely asking "can a woman actually lead a genre thing?"
Worse the female heroes themselves are AWFUL. I think it's because the upper middle class got hold of the genre after it blew up at the end of the 20th century, as opposed to at least some outsiders like JNT, Terry Nation, Rob Tapert, Sam Raimi, hell even Joss Whedon. Before the genre was looked down on, and therefore became a haven for outsiders in the industry, but like I said the good work these guys did in making it huge and popular resulted in the upper middle class types like Oxford boy RTD realizing there was potential there and taking it over.
Sadly as they are all bubble people, they can't write ordinary people of any kind LOL, least of all women. As a result they make their female heroes "strong" by just having them be nasty to men around them and go on about how much they hate men (something we never saw with the female heroes I grew up with.) At the same time however they are actually lame anyway. Jodie is so insipid. She fights the lamest, most boring villains, and even then isn't the hero that often, like in her last story where she is a victim rather than a hero. Captain Marvel is so bland and boring compared to Xena, and often they push old fashioned ideas.
For instance this awful trend of female villains not being as bad because women are lighter, or they were just made bad by a male hero etc, is condescending to women, and stops us having kick ass female villains like Jadis.
It's a shame, but to be fair with Capaldi's Doctor apologising for having male genitals (and he was meant to be the kick up the arse Doctor.) And Luke Skywalker being a sad old git drinking alien soy milk, great male heroes aren't exactly that common either. The lesson here? Don't let the upper middle class get hold of ANYTHING.
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