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Post by RobFilth on Apr 2, 2021 9:35:02 GMT
Whilst watching the Omen, at the bit where Patrick Troughton in the guise of a priest is fighting against Azal or someone, he doesn't appear to be backed up by ANY UNIT troops whatsoever and ends up getting skewered with a metal rod falling from a church steeple.
I was waiting patiently for several minutes for him to regenerate into Jon Pertwee but instead the action shifted to several other boring characters instead. Why didn't Jon Pertwee come along to save the day? I turned the whole thing off in disgust.
Do any other posters consider The Doctors lack of involvement in The Omen to be a problem?
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Post by mott1 on Apr 2, 2021 9:38:26 GMT
Whilst watching the Omen, and where Patrick Troughton in the guise of a priest is fighting against Azal or someone, he doesn't appear to be backed up by ANY UNIT troops whatsoever and ends up getting skewered with a metal rod falling from a church steeple. I was waiting patiently for several minutes for him to regenerate into Jon Pertwee but instead the action shifted to several other boring characters instead. Why didn't Jon Pertwee come along to save the day? I turned the whole thing off in disgust. Do any other posters consider The Doctors lack of involvement in The Omen to be a problem? It does at least explain how why he collapsed at the start of Spearhead From Space, though we never did find out how he got un-impaled. Poor 2nd Doctor - gets exiled to Earth by The Time Lords only for this to happen! |
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Post by RobFilth on Apr 2, 2021 9:42:18 GMT
It does at least explain how why he collapsed at the start of Spearhead From Space, though we never did find out how he got un-impaled. Poor 2nd Doctor - gets exiled to Earth by The Time Lords only for this to happen! WTF was the Brigadier? They were all bloody well there in force when Jon Pertwee later visited The Devils End in Aldbourne, so why not with Patrick Troughton? Mean spirited lot!  |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Apr 2, 2021 9:45:26 GMT
Whilst watching the Omen, at the bit where Patrick Troughton in the guise of a priest is fighting against Azal or someone, he doesn't appear to be backed up by ANY UNIT troops whatsoever and ends up getting skewered with a metal rod falling from a church steeple. I was waiting patiently for several minutes for him to regenerate into Jon Pertwee but instead the action shifted to several other boring characters instead. Why didn't Jon Pertwee come along to save the day? I turned the whole thing off in disgust. Do any other posters consider The Doctors lack of involvement in The Omen to be a problem? The sequence would have also been much improved had Troughton started calling out for Jamie and Zoe, instead of turning to the usual religious murmurs. Why was Gregory Peck the protagonist in this film anyway? The Doctor could have easily deciphered the true epistemological roots of the supposed son of the Devil. To hell with the satanic implications- where is the Doctor's ethos of science over superstition? Why is it nowhere to be found in here? |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Apr 2, 2021 9:45:59 GMT
In fact, why is the Doctor's involvement so underplayed in everything? Why can't he be rendered the centre of the universe?
Ah, yes. This issue being that this mindset is what causes rubbish like The Timeless Children to air...
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Post by Bernard Marx on Apr 2, 2021 9:51:31 GMT
Whilst watching the Omen, at the bit where Patrick Troughton in the guise of a priest is fighting against Azal or someone, he doesn't appear to be backed up by ANY UNIT troops whatsoever and ends up getting skewered with a metal rod falling from a church steeple. I was waiting patiently for several minutes for him to regenerate into Jon Pertwee but instead the action shifted to several other boring characters instead. Why didn't Jon Pertwee come along to save the day? I turned the whole thing off in disgust. Do any other posters consider The Doctors lack of involvement in The Omen to be a problem? In fact, even the comments section is clamouring over the prospect of Troughton regenerating into Pertwee! We demand a director's cut of the film featuring the Doctor and UNIT! #ReleasetheDoctorWhoCut Come on, Donner. We know you have it! Come to think of it, I'm sure Richard Donner has a second director's cut of Superman II lying about where the Doctor bursts in at the last minute and uses his Venusian Akido on General Zod... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 10:13:41 GMT
* Beyond * creepy scene. Just like you, Rob. Just like you.
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Post by mott1 on Apr 2, 2021 10:23:02 GMT
It does at least explain how why he collapsed at the start of Spearhead From Space, though we never did find out how he got un-impaled. Poor 2nd Doctor - gets exiled to Earth by The Time Lords only for this to happen! WTF was the Brigadier? They were all bloody well there in force when Jon Pertwee later visited The Devils End in Aldbourne, so why not with Patrick Troughton? Mean spirited lot! I think he turned up just after it happened. There's a deleted scene where he ambles into the churchyard, says "Charming spot, Doctor!" and pulls the rod out. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Apr 2, 2021 10:45:22 GMT
Whilst watching the Omen, at the bit where Patrick Troughton in the guise of a priest is fighting against Azal or someone, he doesn't appear to be backed up by ANY UNIT troops whatsoever and ends up getting skewered with a metal rod falling from a church steeple. I was waiting patiently for several minutes for him to regenerate into Jon Pertwee but instead the action shifted to several other boring characters instead. Why didn't Jon Pertwee come along to save the day? I turned the whole thing off in disgust. Do any other posters consider The Doctors lack of involvement in The Omen to be a problem? Well yes, it really is a huge problem. Father Brennan's negligent failure to regenerate results in countless avoidable deaths, including that of the main protagonist. The priest spends all of his scenes in the film handwringing over killing the Anti-Christ but, ultimately, fails to even remember that he is a Time Lord, and leaves all the heavy lifting to humans that he couldn't be bothered to help. Not fit for purpose! |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Apr 2, 2021 11:21:20 GMT
Upon reflection, i do think that this was, ultimately, the only way for such a morally reprehensible, broken character to bow out. The question i find myself asking is; should the Omen have ended in 1975...?
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Post by RobFilth on Apr 2, 2021 11:22:18 GMT
Upon reflection, i do think that this was, ultimately, the only way for such a morally reprehensible, broken character to bow out. The question i find myself asking is; should the Omen have ended in 1975...? I think it should have ended with The Exorcist myself and gone out with some dignity still left intact. |
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Post by RobFilth on Apr 2, 2021 11:26:03 GMT
Upon reflection, i do think that this was, ultimately, the only way for such a morally reprehensible, broken character to bow out. The question i find myself asking is; should the Omen have ended in 1975...? I think it should have ended with The Exorcist myself and gone out with some dignity still left intact. Failing that, I think it should have all ended with Rosemary's Baby whilst they still had some experienced writers. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Apr 2, 2021 11:39:39 GMT
Upon reflection, i do think that this was, ultimately, the only way for such a morally reprehensible, broken character to bow out. The question i find myself asking is; should the Omen have ended in 1975...? I think it should have ended with The Exorcist myself and gone out with some dignity still left intact. Indeed. Note 4:09 in this video, where William Peter Blatty discusses Eric Saward:-
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Post by mott1 on Apr 2, 2021 11:51:31 GMT
It's appalling to see the levels of horror in these clips from 'Doctor Who And The Damian Of Evil'. Could the 2nd Doctor not have found a more pacifistic way to get impaled, and rediscovered the show's innocence?
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Post by Bernard Marx on Apr 3, 2021 8:06:23 GMT
I think it should have ended with The Exorcist myself and gone out with some dignity still left intact. Indeed. Note 4:09 in this video, where William Peter Blatty discusses Eric Saward:-
I wonder if, by the metric of a certain someone, William Peter Blatty is Johnny Byrne and William Friedkin is Eric Saward? Is the Exorcist a needlessly cruel, sadistic and human-hating affair in how the film dispenses of that very exchange in the film's theatrical cut? After all, I doubt that renowned moral guardian Mary Whitehouse would have appreciated the film... |
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