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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Mar 22, 2024 17:38:40 GMT
I can't believe what RTD has done to it. How can anyone as a classic fan think that this is still the same show?
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 22, 2024 17:47:27 GMT
LOL never realised that about Anne Widdicombe, mostly because I forgot she was in Sound of Drums, but you're right. Another blatant example of his hypocrisy.
I do feel a bit bad for Claudia (and I'm not just white knighting LOL) as it is always sad to find out someone you looked up too was a jackass, but still we've all been through it at some point.
Honestly in the long run it's for the best that the trend of building creators up into being god like geniuses ends. It always brings out the worst in fans, and the creator himself (and it does often seem to be male creators that push the cult of personality to be honest, not to sound like the 12th Doctor LOL.) It also eventually ruins the series quality as we get a guy with no restraint anymore. Even if he is talented at first like Joss Whedon, then the adoration will lead to him indulging in all of his worst crap, with no one daring to hold him back anymore as he's the great messiah of the show. If we're lucky his indulgences will just be fan fic or him bringing his own interests in when they don't fit like JNT giving Colin that costume because he liked garish clothes or hiring panto actresses as he loved panto. Sadly and certainly in the modern world however, it will often be the creator bringing in his own sexual fetishes and forbidden fruit or worse his sexual hang ups and resentments!
From RTD's references to fingers up the anus and Ncuti growing out of Tennant's dick in his underpants and those creepy photos of him and Ncuti, to Joss having Spike give Buffy anal on the balcony of the Bronze and his awful let's feel sorry for Riley being forced to get suck jobs from vampire whores because that bitch Buffy like all women only likes bad boys, to Bruce Timm giving Harley two arse holes, his obsession with Bat sex and his fantasy of Harley chaining Robin to the bed and forcing herself on him. I really could have done without any of these images in my head! The idea people think that crappy looking monsters in classic who is as low as a franchise can sink compared to these is baffling LOL.
I know I joke, but if I were ever lucky enough to write a story about Alti, or have big Fam or big Gina star in something I wrote, I would NEVER make it like my threads. Again joke about that stuff with your mates down the pub, or go up stairs and have a wank, but keep it out of the f*cking show. Sadly however once these guys reach a certain pedigree, even if they are not arrogant shits, like for instance Bruce Timm who I've never heard anything bad about, then they still won't have people saying anything to them, probably because they'll now be working with young people who are fans who will genuinely think "what do I know compared to the great Bruce Timm about doing Batman?" Actually it doesn't matter if he's the great Bruce Timm LOL. If he is going to have a sex scene with Batman and Batgirl, STOP HIM!
Also it never works out in the long run. All of these guys ended up falling hard, from JNT to Joss Whedon, to Bruce Timm and now FINALLY RTD will be joining them. Personally I don't think he was ever in their league anyway, but either way he has finally be rumbled.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Mar 22, 2024 17:58:41 GMT
New trailer, by the way: If you make it past Ncuti's cringe "GIVE ME THE LOVING!" you get a medal. F*ck, he's bad. Where's my medal? I don't think Doctor Who, in any iteration, has ever been this bereft of intelligence or artistic integrity. EDIT: Jesus. The comments are uniformly salivating over it. Not a single critical observation in plain sight.
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Mar 22, 2024 18:07:20 GMT
New trailer, by the way: If you make it past Ncuti's cringe "GIVE ME THE LOVING!" you get a medal. F*ck, he's bad.
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Post by Ludders II on Mar 22, 2024 18:08:31 GMT
I can't believe what RTD has done to it. How can anyone as a classic fan think that this is still the same show? Herd mentality. Or perhaps Flock mentality is more appropriate.
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 22, 2024 18:13:10 GMT
I can't believe what RTD has done to it. How can anyone as a classic fan think that this is still the same show? Herd mentality. Or perhaps Flock mentality is more appropriate. There was a guy on GB who was really insanely abusive to me for daring to suggest that Jodie Whittakers era would tank and for later criticising the Timeless Children retcon. His username was Nullain I believe. Now his job it would seem is to run a cosplay competition. Basically his entire life revolves around DW. That does kind of explain why he has developed that attitude in a way. Obviously not the case for all of them, but it certainly can explain a lot of it. They've just infested too much either professionally or mentally in this brand being current and always running they would support scat porn with the DW logo if it were profitable. Ironically however by promoting these false messiah's like RTD they've as seen with that trailer done more harm than good.
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 22, 2024 18:14:34 GMT
Suddenly my story Fire of the Daleks is looking pretty good.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Mar 22, 2024 18:15:31 GMT
Fast forward to 2021, and he's reinvented himself as the world's most obnoxious poster boy for identity politics - not because he cares about genuine injustices like the horror currently unfolding in Gaza, but because he thinks virtue signalling as loudly as possible will earn him clout on social media. Unfortunately for him, it seems to have backfired so catastrophically that his reputation will never recover. Yes, because he's achieved what can be defined- in inverted Blairite lexicon- as "anti-triangulation". The act of attempting to disingenuously placate as many as possible, only to piss off everyone in sight courtesy of one's glaring hypocrisy and contradictions. There's something else he's got in common with Starmer. He's despised by socialists and right-leaning "anti-woke" figures alike- only admired and adored by the self-replicating centrist commentariat- and held afloat by the relative lack of alternatives.
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Post by Ludders II on Mar 22, 2024 18:22:38 GMT
Suddenly my story Fire of the Daleks is looking pretty good. Not suddenly. It would still be good if there was never any NuWho to compare it with. To me, it's entirely consistent with the BF Unbound range.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Mar 22, 2024 18:29:35 GMT
I can't believe what RTD has done to it. How can anyone as a classic fan think that this is still the same show? Probably because facing up to how unprecedentedly pitiful this is would be to ascertain that "Doctor Who" being on the air does not constitute doing the programme justice, and many fans still bafflingly convince themselves that Doctor Who needs to have a public profile, regardless of quality. Presumably an overreaction to the original series’ cancellation. The end-point of that thought process echoes 1984's conclusion:
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 22, 2024 18:38:47 GMT
I can't believe what RTD has done to it. How can anyone as a classic fan think that this is still the same show? Probably because facing up to how unprecedentedly pitiful this is would be to ascertain that "Doctor Who" being on the air does not constitute doing the programme justice, and many fans still bafflingly convince themselves that Doctor Who needs to have a public profile, regardless of quality. Presumably an overreaction to the cancellation.
The end-point of that thought process echoes 1984's conclusion: Not the cancellation. As I've been over, I think that it is the way it was bullied in the 90s and 00s by the media and panel show comedians. I won't go into my spiel about them again, as you all probably know it verbatim, but honestly they really do have a lot to answer for in dumbing down ALL forms of entertainment from music, to comedy, to satire to sci fi. Still that said it was 30 years ago. These people going on about the wilderness years. GET f*ckING OVER IT! It also makes me laugh as though we aren't still basically in a wilderness years anyway. There hasn't been a full series of this broadcast since 2020 and its reputation is bottom level. The idea you still get twats on sites like Anoraks saying "DW will never be an utter contemptible joke like it was in the 90s and 00s again thank god" makes me laugh. PS even the panel show wankers and media whores and gaping morons whose opinions we all craved turned on it a few years back anyway, as seen here. Really it is just a cult at this point, no other explanation. It's gone beyond any rational argument you could make, in terms of being a proper version of DW or in terms of even being a success.
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Post by rushy on Mar 22, 2024 20:42:11 GMT
"Everything is possible WHEN YOU CAN CHANGE TIME!"
The Meddling Monk called, he wants his shtick back.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Mar 22, 2024 20:46:33 GMT
New trailer, by the way: If you make it past Ncuti's cringe "GIVE ME THE LOVING!" you get a medal. F*ck, he's bad. EDIT: Jesus. The comments are uniformly salivating over it. Not a single critical observation in plain sight. Exactly. The small number of critical comments are relegated to the bottom of the page and are instantly swarmed upon by the faithful. They can handle criticism about as well as the showrunner can.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Mar 22, 2024 20:48:39 GMT
New trailer, by the way: If you make it past Ncuti's cringe "GIVE ME THE LOVING!" you get a medal. F*ck, he's bad. Where's my medal? I don't think Doctor Who, in any iteration, has ever been this bereft of intelligence or artistic integrity. EDIT: Jesus. The comments are uniformly salivating over it. Not a single critical observation in plain sight. To be fair though, it has nearly three thousand dislikes compared to eight thousand likes. Looks like RTD hasn't duped everyone.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Mar 22, 2024 21:07:39 GMT
I found Burrunjor's comment in that section and the first reply to him was "Doctor Who is always about change"
You can't make these things up.
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