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Post by mott1 on Mar 31, 2021 10:09:16 GMT
To be honest, even though Remembrance and Fenric are some of the best things ever made, I much prefer The Tripods to Doctor Who. I'm surprised and somewhat disappointed that people seem to ignore the show despite the fact that it was made in the mid 80s and has a lot in common with Doctor Who. The whole thing is shot on videotape and set in rural areas in both England and France. It also has a medieval feel at times even though it's set in the 2080s. Nothing beats the claustrophobic atmosphere the show has nor the excellent synthesizer music. Of course Fenric is better than every episode of The Tripods, but as a whole I would say The Tripods is better than the McCoy era (only just, though). My interest in Who has never been the same since Jodie was announced. The abuse I got on my fanpage at the time opened my eyes completely at how nasty fandom can be when you disagree with them. It put me off the actual show for at least a year and I sold my collection out of spite. I'm back into it now, but it's not the same. I read the book of The Tripods at school. The family-friendly version of War Of The Worlds, and the sci-fi equivalent of The Hobbit for me. I loved both of them then, and now (even tho the films of the latter are crap).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 21:41:58 GMT
It did, in many ways. The McCoy era was so much more creative and competently made compared to the tatty productions of the 1970s with its stale characters and hokey effects. You see, the McCoy era had deeper, more mature themes. It moved the show into the late 80s with complex storylines and characters with depth. It was also one of the most imaginative eras of any television program. I see it as the renaissance era of Who. Cartmel was also a script editor that went against the system, something that was included even the most surreal of storylines. The technical aspects of the era make the whole thing feel very nostalgic even if you didn't grow up in the 80a. The synthesizer music, the videotape footage, the extensive location filming and so on really helped the show move forward from the murky film/fart music era that had been prevalent in the early 1970s and even early 80s. I guess what I'm trying to say is the McCoy eclipsed the first twenty three years of the series in every department.
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Oct 26, 2021 22:21:42 GMT
My interest in Who has never been the same since Jodie was announced. The abuse I got on my fanpage at the time opened my eyes completely at how nasty fandom can be when you disagree with them. It put me off the actual show for at least a year and I sold my collection out of spite. I'm back into it now, but it's not the same. I understand that. I'll always be a fan to some extent or another, but the behaviour of the fanbase, cast and writers over the past four years has definitely left a bitter taste. I still enjoy watching the show (mostly Hartnell, Tom & McCoy serials these days), but the sheer f*cking ugliness of what it's come to represent culturally, politically, etc. is always in the back of my mind. Gone are the days when I'd feel comfortable telling someone I'd just met that I'm a fan of the show. Saying that you enjoy Doctor Who no longer simply means that you enjoy Doctor Who. It's become a means of signalling which side of the culture war you're on, and probably always will be from now on. Also, the mere thought of someone uninitiated looking up the show because they know I'm into it and stumbling across shit like Arachnids or Orphan 55 fills me with overwhelming embarrassment. The Fitzroy c*nts have turned being a Doctor Who fan into exactly the shameful, dirty secret they falsely imagined it to be back in the 90s.
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Post by iank on Oct 26, 2021 22:48:21 GMT
Nah, I'm just sure to add "Only the original series".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 8:26:45 GMT
I understand that. I'll always be a fan to some extent or another, but the behaviour of the fanbase, cast and writers over the past four years has definitely left a bitter taste. I still enjoy watching the show (mostly Hartnell, Tom & McCoy serials these days), but the sheer fokking ugliness of what it's come to represent culturally, politically, etc. is always in the back of my mind. Gone are the days when I'd feel comfortable telling someone I'd just met that I'm a fan of the show. Saying that you enjoy Doctor Who no longer simply means that you enjoy Doctor Who. It's become a means of signalling which side of the culture war you're on, and probably always will be from now on. Also, the mere thought of someone uninitiated looking up the show because they know I'm into it and stumbling across shit like Arachnids or Orphan 55 fills me with overwhelming embarrassment. The Fitzroy canutes have turned being a Doctor Who fan into exactly the shameful, dirty secret they falsely imagined it to be back in the 90s. Indeed. My own anecodte here but week or so ago, a co-worker and long term friend is talking about modern science fiction and fantasy (Star Wars, Supernatural and all that) to a couple of younger co-workers whilst I'm working in background and announces out loud ''Ah, well if you want to know owt about the old Doctor Who, ask Brian, he's the resident Whovian (a term that makes me cringe in general).'', to which the two sniggered at and it felt like the whole place came to a stop. It's a shame cos personally if this had been back in the 90s and early 00s I wouldn't have minded and hell, would even proudly admitted being a bit of an anorak type when it came to Who but since the mid noughties , it's filled me with dread every time so much as Doctor Who comes up in conversation outside of the internet or people find out you like it and although you specify you're a classic series only type, you still get that feeling they still reckon you get off to watching Miss Mork and friends on a Sunday night. Anyone else had that sort of experience nowadays or since NuWho began where you just cringe the minute people find out you're a DW fan? I remember going to a computer club in 2013 with my friend. At some point he said quite loudly that I watched Doctor Who (he knew I was a fan) and someone on another computer laughed. This was in 2013 mind so before Whittaker, but even so I felt so deflated and embarrassed. I tried to change the subject as quickly as possible. I'm not embarrassed by my love of classic who, but personally I hate talking about it in public because of what NuWho has become.
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