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Post by Ludders II on Mar 17, 2024 23:21:08 GMT
sorry, I know I'm probably the only one here that thinks Series 3 is great But I don't see that much of a difference between it, series 1, 4 and 5. They're all really good. Nor me, except I think they're all really shit.  But what's so special about Series 3? |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Mar 17, 2024 23:26:37 GMT
But I don't see that much of a difference between it, series 1, 4 and 5. They're all really good. Nor me, except I think they're all really shit. But what's so special about Series 3? For me, it's partly down to the fact that the episodes are generally much better than the ones in the years surrounding it and partly my own nostalgic feelings towards it. I can remember where I was and what the weather was like on each and every broadcast day. It was the height of my Doctor Who obsession before I discovered TruWho as well. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Mar 17, 2024 23:32:02 GMT
I remember going to Lakeside to shop the day Sound of Drums aired. It was pissing down most of the day and I remember we only just made it back in time to watch it. It's odd, but those sort of moments become associated with the episodes themselves.
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Post by Ludders II on Mar 17, 2024 23:44:35 GMT
I remember going to Lakeside to shop the day Sound of Drums aired. It was pissing down most of the day and I remember we only just made it back in time to watch it. It's odd, but those sort of moments become associated with the episodes themselves. I understand how strongly nostalgia can play a part. It's the same for me too. |
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Post by burrunjor on Aug 3, 2024 9:18:11 GMT
Well we can add the Ncuti era being a huge flop to this as well LOL.
I agree with Maxil meanwhile that series 3 is the best of the RTD era. The whole era is great, but it's not a sequel to the original. Again it should have been a remake or a loose sequel to the original like the Buffy tv show and Buffy movie. It would have saved itself so much grief had it done that, never mind classic. In fact I'd say the connection has arguably hurts new who more, as Classic Who will always stand as a work of fiction in its own right. No matter how many stupid Big Finish stories they try to do where Tom meets River Song, Classic Who can always be watched without taking mind of new who, because new who was made almost 20 years later as one of four competing sequels. New Who however by linking itself to the original, but being written as a reboot hurts itself as rather than judge it as a cool reinvention in its own right you're just thinking "the Doctor would never do that, why did the Master never mention the drums, how do the Cybusmen figure etc."
The Matt Smith era meanwhile on my rewatch has still proven to be better than RTD's overall with series 5 being superior to series 3. Matt Smith is the best of the new boys and an argument could be made for him being the best Doctor of the franchise as he is the only one to combine the main traits of the three different types of Doctors.
Like I said there is basically the classic era style where the Doctor is an alien, dusty, professorial, compassionate, but also ruthless and the stories aren't so much about him. He's just the person who gets us there and obviously will be the hero, but it's not like the villains reflect him or anything. The character is played by a more unconventional character actor. Then there is the type from the Cushing movies and comics where the Doctor is a straight forward good guy with an affinity for children who is almost like a space Santa LOL. Then there is the new who template at least until Capaldi where the Doctor is a tragic, tortured, romantic more unstable hero and the stories do revolve more closely around him.
Matt has all 3 of those characteristics at different points. He has the Santa, friend to children aspect brilliantly, but he also can be more alien, professorial and surprisingly ruthless, and unlike Tennant the story doesn't always have to be about him. He can just show up and deal with it, but as seen with River and Clara there is a romantic broody element there.
I mean fair enough if you only like one style then that can count against Matt LOL. For instance if you really like the romantic, tortured Doctor he might not be romantic enough, and those of us who prefer the more alien Doctor think that lets Matt down, but overall I think he represents all sides to the character across the franchise which again is why it would have better if he'd be on his own. Still it must be said his approach did make him one of the most successful. He was a huge hit with the public, little kids loved him, without his era having to be a kiddie era, he also is by far the most popular of the new who Doctors among classic who fans, (it's not even close) but he won round both the GP who were used to Tennant at that time and has plenty of new who fans too.
He is the closest we have to the Kevin Conroy of Doctor Who. Just such a shame he didn't get a longer run or an era that was as perfect for DW as Batman TAS was for Batman. As much as I like 11's era, it's not like Batman TAS in that it doesn't have the absolute best stories, or the best takes on villains like the Daleks and the Cybermen etc, the way Batman TAS did for the Joker and Ra's Al Ghul etc.
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Post by zarius on Aug 3, 2024 14:04:36 GMT
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