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Post by Spark Doll King on Sept 28, 2023 12:34:08 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up for me guys, I was soo lost on what this was all about.
Again credit were credit is due, the guys worked his arse of to find lost stories and even if he's got a bit of an ego, you do not take the piss out of people when they are seriously ill. Only the truly mentally deranged do that.
I do find it funny that "be kind" became such a catch phrase for people who capacity for empathy is so questionable. I've got into a few spats with people online, but I never wish them any real harm over them, thats just sick.
As for these collectors... well on the one hand I can understand being reluctant to let go of such a cinematic treasure but if it were me I share it. I'm very aware of the entropy of existence and I honestly feel we should actively work towards preserving all information, art and culture for as long as possible because it won't last. By sharing it with the world there's a greater chance foe the work to be preserved in a digital format. Sitting in a can somewhere means that eventually it will be totally useless even to the collector as it degrades over time. Even if you make a digital copy, one person's set up is far more vulnerable to breakdown then the entire worlds. It speaks of a somewhat selfish and bitter mindset that you'd rather see such treasure destroyed rather then share it.
Then again the BBC don't exactly do anyone any favours either. They offer pretty much no incentive for people to come forward as far as I can tell, in fact they have gone so far as to attempt to penalise such people who saved things they themselves had thrown away. They don't even get any recondition for doing so either.
Oh well, we can only hope that some how, some way it all will work out.
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Post by burrunjor on Sept 28, 2023 12:47:58 GMT
Ian Levine also happens to be, well, Ian Levine Honestly all my biases aside, I've never got why he's seen as an embarrassment to the fandom? He's very accomplished outside the world of DW in lots of areas as a producer, and his complete comics collection. (He filled me in on the history of that and it's rather interesting.) Also Ian's surprisingly chill as a moderator on his FB page. You can express a wide range of opinions there, certainly more so than Gallifrey Reddti. I'd rank the forums as here obviously number 1 because you can express any opinion you like here, followed by Ian's on facebook then DW Online and then Gallifrey Reddit. DWO is okay, but it's a bit new who biased, though not in a nasty way, and Gallifrey Reddit is VERY New Who biased, and they can pile on you if you slag it, but they don't ban you to be fair and can be chill in other ways. The only thing I've seen Ian personally intervene and get huffy over in regards to opinions on his, is when you mention Doctor in Distress. That seems to be his biggest sore spot, even more than his DC collection. To be fair he said it nearly destroyed his career as a producer, not surprisingly LOL. Ian has also done a lot of great things, even outside of finding the stories for the fans. His support of my friend when he had cancer was very considerate of him. Though he later had a falling out with another one of my friends, Gobby Guy. I think someone had been badmouthing Gobby and Ian sadly bought into it. Honestly I think his problem is that he gets too invested in things and of course his legendary CAPS LOCKS rants and beefs with fans all tend to overshadow everything else. To be fair like everyone he's gone too far in some of his feuds, I understand we had someone here on the Hive years ago who ran afoul of him and it was quite bad. Maxil I think parodied that when he trolled Nuhive years back LOL. Still at least he has always cared about the franchise and has preserved it for future generations and didn't leech off of the brand, IE he is wealthy and had a career outside of that. Honestly when you compare him to fans like Mr TARDIS, Babel Colour Tribute, Josh Snares, Five Who Fans, Benjamin Cook, who DO just leech off of the brand, support it collapsing in on itself in the hopes of becoming part of the fandom elite, throw its fandom under the bus as incels, losers, every negative cliche they can think of, and ironically make it far more cliquey than Ian ever did, and who finally are utter hypocrites in everything they claim to believe in (IE claim to be woke, yet support guys like NPH, virgin shame, etc.) Ian's still in the nursery as far as embarrassing, toxic fans go. |
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Post by burrunjor on Sept 28, 2023 13:08:38 GMT
I'd also like to say the weakest forums are Gallifrey Base, Anoraks and Caprona.
GB I'm a bit torn over as I do have some friends there, including ironically Omie. (I'm a bit like Tom Baker LOL, the way he would have feuds with people in the show like Louise Jameson and JNT and then became their friends years later haha, that's me, Claudia, Omie and Ludders. In fact someone who knew JNT from the DW days said when he saw Tom Baker at his funeral, he felt like calling him out as a hypocrite because in his experience they hated each other, with this guy having no idea that JNT and Tom had become so close years later.)
Still there's no denying that GB is very cliquey which always brings out the worst in people, both its critics and its followers, as seen with me and Omie who outside became mates and as some of its mods are right in there with the New Who lot, then it will censor opinions and finally it's where Jon Blum lurks LOL. He's not a nasty guy to be clear, but he is very condescending and the lengths he goes to justify anything in DW like RTD using disgusting abelist slurs are annoying.
Anorak and Caprona meanwhile pissed me off even more than GB, because they were advertised as being forums like this one, IE run by grumpy old who fans like Rob who didn't give a shit about towing the party line, but they were if anything even worse than GB for shutting you down.
Also they were so hypocritical. I mean I do get GB in all fairness thinking I'm a nuisance as they are a New Who forum, so when I criticise the direction it is going in that can make it feel like "he's just spoiling our fun." Again they should handle it better than that, and take in mind that part of old who fans anger is that they feel New Who stops there from ever being anything like classic who, by making out the original could never work, it has to be like this etc.
Still on Anoraks and Caprona, they just took a personal dislike to me and others that they have banned. Their moderators have a one rule for them, another for us. IE I was called misogynistic because I said Missy was pandering on Anoraks, whilst the mods were allowed to go on about misshapen female pop stars heads and some of them being jailbait!
Similarly on Caprona I got banned for causing trouble, because I disagreed with some of the mods from time to time, yet f*cking Servobot who starts a fight on every single discussion, chastising people for having a discussion and not being as intelligent as he was, and who many, many users despise is made moderator? (PS these same dicks banned me from Planet Mondas too.)
The only mod I liked from Caprona was Cyggy. He's a cool guy, but other than that they can get to f*ck.
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Post by iank on Sept 28, 2023 21:21:38 GMT
Caprona is the only other one I bother with tbh, never had any problem there myself. Banned myself from Mondas a few weeks back. The desperate RTD arselicking was getting beyond a joke.
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Post by burrunjor on Sept 29, 2023 8:53:33 GMT
Caprona is the only other one I bother with tbh, never had any problem there myself. Banned myself from Mondas a few weeks back. The desperate RTD arselicking was getting beyond a joke. Sorry do you mean you were banned from Mondas, or you left? I hate Ginger Cat with an absolute vengeance. Unlike Omie, Claudia or Ludders I don't see myself making up with him, as personally he is just a nasty, petty, cowardly, self righteous, sad, out of touch boomer prick who is so terrified of being seen as right wing, he comes down hard on any reasonable criticism of 13 as right wing propaganda (unless it's one of his mates, who make such stunning and worthwhile observations as Jodie was crap, and who ironically have many outdated opinions like women just will never like sci fi unless it's about kisses and flowers.) |
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Post by burrunjor on Sept 29, 2023 13:49:57 GMT
Anyway back on topic from c*nts I hate on forums. (Though if you're reading this Ginger Cat I f*cking hate your guts.) This is an article about Ian Levine rediscovering a colour version of the Daemons.  |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 22, 2023 17:58:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 22:04:57 GMT
Link doesn't work sadly. I have however seen more footage of his animation elsewhere and I'm quite impressed with some of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 23:35:47 GMT
Guys an absolute legend LMFAO at this. It's not just the hysteria but the CAPS LOCKS!!!!!!!! rants. He honestly does talk like a supervillain in defeat. MY DREAMS OF CONQUEST! This is almost as over the top as him clenching his fist when talking about the guy. Having said that however I can sympathise with him in dealing with GB and Gallifrey Reddit. Worse I can't stand the way a lot of Who fans enjoy ripping on him, due to how easy he is to wind up. That ghastly Doctor Who General wiki which claimed to be a satirical look at DW fandom, virtually NEVER went after the SJW side of fandom when it was at its worst and most influential, yet it did an absolutely vicious article on Ian Levine. Fandom's a terrible clique these days, though that's obviously nothing new. I do wish there was a forum where every type of Who fan could just relax. I think the problem is always the people who moderate forums honestly. All of them regardless of whether they are new who or old who forums, turn into little mini dictators, and have their little favourites, and gradually the forum shifts to their point of view. Caprona showed me that via that absolute c*nt GC, as did Anoraks both of which were old who forums, but had exactly the same problems as a rabid new who one. I mean hey we could be taken for a clique from the outside too and have had our own civil wars LOL. (PS I'd welcome back Ludders if he ever returned as he stood up for me on Caprona and Anoraks.) Honestly forget SJW vs conservatives, or even old vs new who fans. Cliques are the thing we need to purge from fandom to stop things like this from ever happening. Granted in Ian Levine's case he probably would always find something to blow up over LMAO. I think what it comes down to is that a lot of Doctor Who's most fervent fans are bullied and outcast young men, or even older men in some cases, who are looking to get a leg-up any way they can because a lot of their life has been being last in the queue and having to eat dirt. This is where the tin-pot forum dictators come from. Someone like Levine presents an easy target, which opens up an opportunity for these bullied-bullies to crank themselves up a notch on the totempole. This is not to say I'm sympathetic towards Levine in any way, though it is hard not to feel a bit sorry for the underdog who's constantly shat on from just about every angle, but picking on someone like that invites very little respect from me at the very least. If you're so desperate for justice, go after someone who's really causing the trouble; don't take cheap shots at the guy with a million different boot-prints on his arse. |
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Post by medicusitic on Nov 23, 2023 22:55:41 GMT
Nice to see its being animated, but how are we ever going to watch it?
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 23, 2023 23:00:27 GMT
Sorry my post didn't come through the other day. Basically it hasn't been a good week for Ian Levine. First off he was permanently banned from GB and is now suing them and plans to take the site down. Also on top of that one of this friends turned against him because of his political beliefs (Sadly Ian is very tribal about Israel/Palestine.) And now he is going on about what a c*nt that guy is on twitter.
Even Ian's post about his lifetime love for Who got slated as he compared himself to Neil Armstrong. As Yak Emperor said at this stage he has everybody dogpiling on him so it's probably best just to leave him be, but I will say if he does take down Gallifrey Base that will be f*cking hilarious.
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Post by iank on Nov 23, 2023 23:58:53 GMT
Couldn't happen to a nicer cornucopia of c*nts.
On the downside, if he does, the f*ckers might come here...
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