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Post by zarius on Apr 3, 2023 15:54:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 16:00:11 GMT
f*ck off. Stuff like this only ever hampers gay acceptance because gay people are forced by the media to be associated with this degeneracy. There is no "LGBTQIA+", it's all a crock of bullshit. and it makes me genuinely furious that I have to be included in a "community" wherein I'm apparently expected, because of my homosexuality, to relate with freaks, fetishists and mentally ill weirdos.
On the DW front, this is all shaping up to be a disaster. I'm going to laugh and celebrate when no one watches and it gets canned within 2 seasons; we all know how eager Disney are to cancel underperforming shows, and everything about this reeks of pending disaster. Remember Batwoman?
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 3, 2023 16:02:20 GMT
So is she a new companion?
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 3, 2023 16:38:20 GMT
f*ck off. Stuff like this only ever hampers gay acceptance because gay people are forced by the media to be associated with this degeneracy. There is no "LGBTQIA+", it's all a crock of bullshit. and it makes me genuinely furious that I have to be included in a "community" wherein I'm apparently expected, because of my homosexuality, to relate with freaks, fetishists and mentally ill weirdos. On the DW front, this is all shaping up to be a disaster. I'm going to laugh and celebrate when no one watches and it gets canned within 2 seasons; we all know how eager Disney are to cancel underperforming shows, and everything about this reeks of pending disaster. Remember Batwoman? I strongly disagree that drag artists are degenerates. Yes you do like any group get those who are oversexualised, but a lot of it is just good fun and even if it is sexy, who cares? I mean to me degenerates means actively twisted. Hell my posts about wanting to get tortured by Alti and Big Fam are more weird than any drag act LOL. Also it's not like drag artists or drag acts have hurt the gay image. I mean look at Rocky Horror, David Bowie and Freddie Mercury, all embraced drag acts, all helped push acceptance of gay people even made them cool and trendy. You can argue that it helped oversexualise them, but you could say the same of any rock star for straight people or any raunchy female singer for female singers like Lady Gaga and Amy Winehouse., To be fair I'd also argue that image of gay men being oversexualised was more a case of homosexuality, having been repressed for so long, that when it was finally legalised it erupted in the 70s. The 70s for gay people was kind of like the free love period for straight people in the 60s, so it would have been crazy and sexualised regardless of the drag part. That said however I do agree that it's annoying the way there is deemed a tribe for LGBT people that you have to be a part of. If you're gay you should be allowed to be an individual, to be shy, to not be that interested in sex, to not define yourself by it, to not take part in things like pride parade (Which lets be honest is useless in the modern world. I've always said if there can be a pride parade, then there is no need for one, as the society is clearly accepting of homosexuality enough to have one, and whilst there may still be inequalities for lGBT people, you're not going to fix that with a stupid march.) One of my friends who is trans, gets more shit from other trans members for not being genuine, for not being part of the community, for not looking like a proper trans person, so I agree that this LGBT pride parade stuff can like any tribe destroy the individual identity of people. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 16:44:08 GMT
f*ck off. Stuff like this only ever hampers gay acceptance because gay people are forced by the media to be associated with this degeneracy. There is no "LGBTQIA+", it's all a crock of bullshit. and it makes me genuinely furious that I have to be included in a "community" wherein I'm apparently expected, because of my homosexuality, to relate with freaks, fetishists and mentally ill weirdos. On the DW front, this is all shaping up to be a disaster. I'm going to laugh and celebrate when no one watches and it gets canned within 2 seasons; we all know how eager Disney are to cancel underperforming shows, and everything about this reeks of pending disaster. Remember Batwoman? I strongly disagree that drag artists are degenerates. Yes you do like any group get those who are oversexualised, but a lot of it is just good fun and even if it is sexy, who cares? I mean to me degenerates means actively twisted. Hell my posts about wanting to get tortured by Alti and Big Fam are more weird than any drag act LOL. Also it's not like drag artists or drag acts have hurt the gay image. I mean look at Rocky Horror, David Bowie and Freddie Mercury, all embraced drag acts, all helped push acceptance of gay people even made them cool and trendy. You can argue that it helped oversexualise them, but you could say the same of any rock star for straight people or any raunchy female singer for female singers like Lady Gaga and Amy Winehouse., To be fair I'd also argue that image of gay men being oversexualised was more a case of homosexuality, having been repressed for so long, that when it was finally legalised it erupted in the 70s. The 70s for gay people was kind of like the free love period for straight people in the 60s, so it would have been crazy and sexualised regardless of the drag part. That said however I do agree that it's annoying the way there is deemed a tribe for LGBT people that you have to be a part of. If you're gay you should be allowed to be an individual, to be shy, to not be that interested in sex, to not define yourself by it, to not take part in things like pride parade (Which lets be honest is useless in the modern world. I've always said if there can be a pride parade, then there is no need for one, as the society is clearly accepting of homosexuality enough to have one, and whilst there may still be inequalities for lGBT people, you're not going to fix that with a stupid march.) One of my friends who is trans, gets more shit from other trans members for not being genuine, for not being part of the community, for not looking like a proper trans person, so I agree that this LGBT pride parade stuff can like any tribe destroy the individual identity of people. Oh I enjoy drag as a fun, slightly bawdy cabaret act, but we all know where this is going. There's a difference between Rocky Horror and "LGBTQIA+" activists who really are just sexual perverts. Drag should be an act, not a lifestyle. |
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Apr 3, 2023 17:00:37 GMT
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Post by iank on Apr 3, 2023 21:25:21 GMT
Is it just me or has anyone else never heard of any of the so-called "guest stars" announced of late? I thought we were getting "access to a wider range of acting talent"? So far it's a bunch of nobodies.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 7:58:21 GMT
Is it just me or has anyone else never heard of any of the so-called "guest stars" announced of late? I thought we were getting "access to a wider range of acting talent"? So far it's a bunch of nobodies. A bunch of "diverse" nobodies at that. I'm so tempted not to watch. |
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Post by rushy on Apr 4, 2023 14:58:29 GMT
I'm gonna stick with my original plan of seeing the 60th to indulge in Tennant nostalgia, and then dropping it again
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 21:32:37 GMT
I'm very pleased with the news because it means we're not that many steps away from having Hermann Göring materialize into the TARDIS wearing nothing but edible knickers and some suspenders. Maybe we could have Joseph Goebbels hobble his way after him? I reckon the show needs a companion with a disability. Maybe some dreams DO come true!
Make it happen, Russell!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 21:42:49 GMT
Meet the new TARDIS team! RTD is certainly taking the current series in a different direction. I'm all for it myself.  A black guy, a transvestite and a disabled man. Much better than the old "fam" I must say. |
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Post by Spark Doll King on Apr 5, 2023 5:54:49 GMT
Never heard of them befor this and their wiki page is not overly impressive. I'll not begrudge anyone getting work but you'll forgive me if my intreast is not peaked.
It all just sounds like more shallow box ticking, literally nothing has been shown that convinces me the show is improving the quality of it's stories.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Apr 5, 2023 10:47:24 GMT
"LGBTQIA+" activists who really are just sexual perverts. Could you elaborate on this? |
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 5, 2023 15:25:50 GMT
"LGBTQIA+" activists who really are just sexual perverts. Could you elaborate on this? I agree here, I take issue with this statement. Again obviously there are perverts among the LGBT activists, as there are with every group, but overall no I don't think they are perverted. (Many of my friends are LGBT activists too so I really have a dog in this fight.) I also think that this moral panic that the right wing are pushing about how "the LGBT want to sexualise our kids" by teaching kids about them is a leftover from 80s homophobia. Again whilst there are perverts and freaks out there, most LGBT activists simply want gay people and trans people to be taught about in sex ed classes with age appropriate lessons, same way straight people are taught about. Now you can argue that sex ed classes in general are inappropriate. That's a perfectly fair debate, that it's healthy to just let kids figure it all out on their own. I never had any sex ed lessons and I turned out fine (dominatrix fantasies aside LOL, but I think that came more from watching Xena as a boy than anything else. Don't let young boys watch Alti.) Still if you do feel that way about sex ed lessons, then all sex ed classes must stop. Singling LGBT lesson out however as the right do, is bad as it creates an attitude of , LGBT people are automatically more sexualised and deviant than straight people, and that "they're coming for our kids" and a fear that if kids are taught about them, it will make them gay. Of course not that I would care if someone was gay, but hilariously from the perspective of a lot of right wingers they are making more people gay in some respects with their homophobia. History has shown time and time again when you repress knowledge of homosexuality and make out it's this big deal, that does lead to more straight people indulging in gay experiences out of curiosity and having crippling anxiety over being gay. (The same is true of straight sex too. When it was repressed due to things like Victorian values, that later led to the sexual revolution.) Saudi Arabia for instance has the highest percentage of straight men indulging in homosexual activities and porn, because of its insane anti gay laws. If homosexuality were just a thing that was accepted completely, same with trans, then it would be NOTHING to kids and young people who weren't gay or trans, but the right by pushing this "exposure to age appropriate gay characters warps them" crap, they are actually creating the atmosphere for homosexuality to be forbidden fruit and a source of anxiety we don't talk about. Again maybe any kind of sex ed classes are wrong, but certainly LGBT ones should not be singled out, and often when the right wingers make out that "they're coming for our kids." Age appropriate lessons are what they are actually talking about, but they'll use the few examples of genuine predators or lunatics to "prove" it, which leads to a lot of people turning against the LGBT community in general. |
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 5, 2023 15:48:20 GMT
As for Jinkx Monsoon being included in DW, well again I don't really care as I am not bothering with it anymore. Been burnt too many times, and have 0 interest in nostalgia porn for Tennant, an era that I only really tolerated because I thought it would be a stepping stone to something better with Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi. Even then this doesn't look like it will be including the bits I like from that era anyway, namely Freema Agyeman and Jack (before he was cancelled.) I'm not sure about having a drag act for a companion, only because drag act is a very particular type of performer. It's fair to wonder that drag's distinct style might not clash with DW's without being seen as a bigot. I mean hey there are plenty of other types of characters and performers that wouldn't mesh. Like Arnold Schwarzanegger. Imagine him as a companion. It would be f*cking hysterical, but it wouldn't really be DW. Drag act is NOT the same as a trans person remember, or even a transvestite. To those who are acting, on both sides like this is a trans person being in DW, no it isn't A trans woman like the companion for Tennant's three specials can just be an ordinary person from earth like Rose. A drag act however is a very particular type of performer, and presumably they will be bringing that to the series? Again though at this stage I think it's hard to get all worked up over it, considering Missy, Jodie, Timeless Children, number 1 Amy Winehouse hater, are all much better targets of ire. It's like Sooz Kempner, why did people get so pissed at that? PS she liked one of my tweets about Red Dwarf. I knew we'd get along LOL. I will say though it was funny looking at what the son of Anthony Colburn had to say about new who. He seems to be a bit more on the right for me about some things, but it is honestly refreshing to hear someone sort of involved in the old one not being an arse licker to the revival. This is also a good one to use, whenever the SJW fans use that stupid argument of "Sydney Newman thought a female Doctor was awesome."  |
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