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Post by RobFilth on Mar 19, 2021 17:20:18 GMT
Yo! We finally mades it to da Season 22! Da last one 'fore hiatus an' hoping we gets dis sucka in okay.
Brudders, yo no da score, tree votes for tree winners, all the rest in da binners innit?
Good luck ma Bredren. Peace be wid ya.
Ya makes a brudder proud.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 17:49:13 GMT
Revelation/Attack/Varos
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Post by iank on Mar 19, 2021 21:09:20 GMT
Attack, Two Doctors, Revelation.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Mar 20, 2021 7:55:34 GMT
Varos, Revelation and Two Docs. Attack almost made it. f*ck me, it's actually rather a good season, isn't it...?  |
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 20, 2021 8:24:32 GMT
Varos, Revelation and Two Docs. Attack almost made it. fokk me, it's actually rather a good season, isn't it...? Certainly better than what comes afterwards once Grade neuters the crap out of the series. Even the poorer entries like Timelash are still good for a laugh. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jul 15, 2021 5:50:43 GMT
Varos, Revelation and Two Docs. Attack almost made it. fokk me, it's actually rather a good season, isn't it...? Yep, it's one of the absolute best of the decade. Never understood why it gets so panned by mainstream outlets, beyond the spurious logic that it happens to feature Colin Baker which must instantly make it bad, as he is supposedly the worst Doctor ever and the one who got the series cancelled. Bloody hell. He's a sorely underrated Doctor and my current favourite of the 80s, easily the most verbose and articulate of all of them. Anyway, I opted for Attack, Two Doctors and Revelation, with Varos narrowly missing out. Mark of the Rani isn't bad either, and Timelash is amusing in its tackiness and far from the worst when it comes to season low-points. |
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Post by iank on Jul 15, 2021 8:31:05 GMT
Varos, Revelation and Two Docs. Attack almost made it. fokk me, it's actually rather a good season, isn't it...? Yep, it's one of the absolute best of the decade. Never understood why it gets so panned by mainstream outlets, beyond the spurious logic that it happens to feature Colin Baker which must instantly make it bad, as he is supposedly the worst Doctor ever and the one who got the series cancelled. Bloody hell. He's a sorely underrated Doctor and my current favourite of the 80s, easily the most verbose and articulate of all of them. I had a similar reaction back in 88 when I got a fan friend to tape me a story from each of the pre-Sylv Doctors. Wasn't looking forward to Colin's at all because of the negativity. Was blown away by Attack, loved him and preferred it to many of the others like Mind Robber and Daemons lol! |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 15, 2021 8:37:25 GMT
Varos, Revelation and Two Docs. Attack almost made it. fokk me, it's actually rather a good season, isn't it...? Yep, it's one of the absolute best of the decade. Never understood why it gets so panned by mainstream outlets, beyond the spurious logic that it happens to feature Colin Baker which must instantly make it bad, as he is supposedly the worst Doctor ever and the one who got the series cancelled. Bloody hell. He's a sorely underrated Doctor and my current favourite of the 80s, easily the most verbose and articulate of all of them. Anyway, I opted for Attack, Two Doctors and Revelation, with Varos narrowly missing out. Mark of the Rani isn't bad either, and Timelash is amusing in its tackiness and far from the worst when it comes to season low-points. Well I know everyone is sick of me going on about it, but it is because of the shallow mainstream media, the papers, and the comedians in particular who enforced the narrative that the show was axed because it was shit. Those of us who have actually done research know that it was completely down to the Beeb sabotaging it. (That's not to say there weren't problems with 80s Who, but they could have easily been fixed if the Beeb had cared.) Sadly however the media who were in the pockets of the c*nts at the BBC obviously spread their version of events, and my friends the panel show comedians who always only go after media approved targets backed this up in their interchangeable shitty panel shows. As a result fandom got insecure and neurotic about the show succeeding at any cost, and they came to accept the narrative themselves and so 80s Who is judged far more harshly than any other decade, and Colin is judged far more harshly than any other Doctor. I'm not saying you don't get people who genuinely dislike Colin and the 80s. Fair enough it's not everyone's cup of tea and there is a lot of shit in there, but I see people ripping into it for things that they don't mind in other eras. Clever Dick Films, who sadly I think buys into a lot received opinion like "all change is good", "RTD is a die hard DW fan." For instance attacked Colin for using guns, even though Tom's Doctor did. (And seemed to be quite a gun buff in Talons. "The finest piece of hand held artillery in all of England. These damn Victorian guns take too long to reload." Also he went on about Colin making a joke after killing someone in the acid bath of "you'll forgive me for not joining you." Was too out of character for the Doctor, yet again Tom does that all the time. In Revenge of the Cybermen after he has poisoned the Cyberman he makes a joke about it and Sarah has to pull him away. Also look at his attitude to Magnus Greel. "Well eh you might die first Magnus you don't sound too good?" Again I like Clever Dick to be clear. His work is good, and he is such a nice man, but I do think that fans in general tend to look at 80s Who and Colin in particular with an overcritical eye, hence why they pick out things wrong with that decade as examples of why the show failed and why we became such losers in the 90s mocked by intellectual titans like Jimmy Carr where as they wouldn't even notice them in other eras. Other examples include Stunt casting. In JNT's time it was a pathetic attempt to win round audiences. In RTD's time it was a necessity to get people to think DW was cool again. Continuity references. In Moffat and Chinballs time they are an example of how much the producer loves DW. In JNT's time they were an example of the show becoming too insular and anorakish. Campy stories: In JNT's time any campy story destroyed the shows credibility, and we will only show clips from the worst episodes. RTD era, campy stories and monsters like Slitheen, Anne Droid etc, are part of the fun. |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 15, 2021 8:40:16 GMT
Yep, it's one of the absolute best of the decade. Never understood why it gets so panned by mainstream outlets, beyond the spurious logic that it happens to feature Colin Baker which must instantly make it bad, as he is supposedly the worst Doctor ever and the one who got the series cancelled. Bloody hell. He's a sorely underrated Doctor and my current favourite of the 80s, easily the most verbose and articulate of all of them. I had a similar reaction back in 88 when I got a fan friend to tape me a story from each of the pre-Sylv Doctors. Wasn't looking forward to Colin's at all because of the negativity. Was blown away by Attack, loved him and preferred it to many of the others like Mind Robber and Daemons lol! I am so glad that I came to DW in the 90s via video releases where it was just an old classic, like Buffy and Angel are now and I avoided all of this fandom neurosis and received wisdom. That said no way is Attack better than the Mind Robber. Attack is good, but the Mind Robber is a wonderfully spooky, offbeat masterpiece. The opening episode of The Mind Robber is one of the scariest episodes in DW history. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 27, 2024 15:11:23 GMT
Varos, Revelation and Two Docs. Attack almost made it. f*ck me, it's actually rather a good season, isn't it...? "NO! That's not right! The show was TERRIBLE at the time and DESERVED to be cancelled." - User BarryIsHot4Tennant on Reddit. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Aug 27, 2024 15:15:56 GMT
"NO! That's not right! The show was TERRIBLE at the time and DESERVED to be cancelled." User BarryIsHot4Tennant on Reddit. Based on their critical assessment, this user could be Kim Newman, Tat Wood, Richard Molesworth, Mark Campbell, Paul Cornell, Martin Day or Keith Topping under a moniker. |
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Post by burrunjor on Aug 27, 2024 15:43:15 GMT
User BarryIsHot4Tennant on Reddit. Based on their critical assessment, this user could be Kim Newman, Tat Wood, Richard Molesworth, Mark Campbell, Paul Cornell, Martin Day or Keith Topping under a moniker. Is Kim Newman a shill for New Who? Shame as he did at least seem to have a lot of genuine love for the genre. |
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Post by rushy on Aug 27, 2024 15:44:10 GMT
I like Attack of the Cybermen and Vengeance on Varos, but not any of the others. Only picked Two Doctors because the Troughton scenes were gold
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Post by Bernard Marx on Aug 27, 2024 15:53:49 GMT
Based on their critical assessment, this user could be Kim Newman, Tat Wood, Richard Molesworth, Mark Campbell, Paul Cornell, Martin Day or Keith Topping under a moniker. Is Kim Newman a shill for New Who? Shame as he did at least seem to have a lot of genuine love for the genre. He praised it when it first started- unsure what he thinks of it now. I don’t personally mind his general contributions, but regrettably, he primarily attributes Doctor Who’s decline to K9 and John Nathan-Turner instead of Grade. Just edited my post above. I'm mainly referring to the critical orthodoxy surrounding Season 22 instead of Tennant adulation.  |
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Post by Ludders II on Aug 27, 2024 21:26:18 GMT
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