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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2024 21:40:01 GMT
TRACYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
They made a new one recently actually, but they undid her reformed character by having her get in a scrap with Carmine in a cafe. Miserable affair really.
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Post by burrunjor on May 2, 2024 22:37:28 GMT
I don't get all the hype for Lynda with a Y? She's a bit of a nothing character and one that we get told to like because she's sweet rather than showing it.
Her death is a great moment of horror, but that's it.
Rita from the God Complex was a much better could have been companion as we got to know her character more and see her faults as well.
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Post by rushy on May 2, 2024 22:46:56 GMT
She's incredibly adorable, like a human teddy bear. Proves herself to be loyal and brave. The actress is cute and bubbly too.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2024 22:49:06 GMT
I don't get all the hype for Lynda with a Y? She's a bit of a nothing character and one that we get told to like because she's sweet rather than showing it. Her death is a great moment of horror, but that's it. Rita from the God Complex was a much better could have been companion as we got to know her character more and see her faults as well. I had my money on you considering her a ducky ngl Tbh I never got the hype for either. Rita just seemed flat and too serious, and Lynda, while """sweet""", was just a bit of a gobby chav really.
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Post by rushy on May 2, 2024 22:51:26 GMT
send the gobby chavs my way then
no appreciation at all, tsk tsk
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2024 22:54:46 GMT
There's nothing wrong with it on paper, but I just don't get what people love about her so much. I feel the same way about Burrunjor's fixation with Osgood and Tasha Lem, where I literally just don't understand it at all.
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Post by rushy on May 2, 2024 23:08:05 GMT
Certain personalities appeal to certain people.
Plus, Lynda stands out in New Who for her lack of smugness and unfounded 'can-do!' attitude. There's a sincerity about her. She feels normal, and not a vessel for catchphrases and showing off. She wouldn't threaten to smack the Doctor for asking her to fetch something, or make demands or act as if she knows better than the 2000-year old Time Lord.
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Post by burrunjor on May 3, 2024 8:44:26 GMT
I don't get all the hype for Lynda with a Y? She's a bit of a nothing character and one that we get told to like because she's sweet rather than showing it. Her death is a great moment of horror, but that's it. Rita from the God Complex was a much better could have been companion as we got to know her character more and see her faults as well. I had my money on you considering her a ducky ngl Tbh I never got the hype for either. Rita just seemed flat and too serious, and Lynda, while """sweet""", was just a bit of a gobby chav really. Awww glad you guys actually know what a Ducky is. I assume my posts are just ranting into the air haha. Yeah she is very Duckyish and if she were real I'd probably like her a lot. However again we don't see much of her personality. We are just told "she's sweet" and it seems like RTD wants us to think that, without doing anything to show it. Sammy in CC for instance we see at every turn how she makes the people who feel lonely feel welcome and is bubbly about everything you just can't not love her. Same with Willow in Buffy. She even goes out of her way to be nice to Spike LOL, because she's just that kind of a person. I don't hate Lynda with a Y, again I just feel that she is kind of a nothing character. Only memorable thing was her death which is I'll admit one of the best moments of horror in DW and really uses the Daleks brilliantly. In all fairness though I can see someone saying EXACTLY the same thing to me about Osgood haha. Sometimes it's just the actress. Also nothing wrong with chavy girls. A lot of the time they can be the most down to earth and friendly. (I don't mean in that way LOL, though again if they want to sleep around I don't give a shit, it's their life. Slut shaming is even worse today than it was ten years ago with all these creepy posts about women's vaginas being used too often. )
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Post by burrunjor on May 3, 2024 9:01:12 GMT
There's nothing wrong with it on paper, but I just don't get what people love about her so much. I feel the same way about Burrunjor's fixation with Osgood and Tasha Lem, where I literally just don't understand it at all. Oh sorry to correct you, I don't have a fixation with Tasha Lem at all? I've never expressed any desire to see her return or a particular liking for her character or anything? I have only ever brought her up to show that Moffat reuses the same character type again and again. River, Irene, Tasha and Missy are all basically the same character. All flirty, bisexual, dominatrix villains who attack the hero in a sexualized way, but all clearly have deeper feelings for him, all call themselves psychopaths, all are played by somewhat more mature looking women who bring a more Ladyesque Victorian quality to it (IE it's not a big Fam, Glory from Buffy, Maze from Lucifer, Tabetha from Gotham, trashy, physical type of dominatrix, or Jadis, Gina and Alti who are actually threatening physically. I'm well versed in the art of dominatrix's LOL.) All use their sexuality to make the uptight, normally asexual Doctor/Sherlock uncomfortable, but again the Doctor/Sherlock later get the power over them because these female villains want them. All end up being captured and sentenced to execution, until the Doctor/Sherlock rescue them and all then undergo a redemption arc where they develop a more respectful type of relationship with the hero, but ultimately don't get together, and indeed it ends in tragedy. Now the pattern obviously isn't completely perfect. River isn't introduced as a villain. Her story begins that way, but we first see her at the end because it's all over the place. Tasha is less of a villain. It's implied she has some offscreen villainy, and she is an obstacle in not wanting the time lords to return, but not evil. Meanwhile Irene's redemption happens offscreen. Still they are all basically the same character. BTW when Time of the Doctor aired, lots of people assumed that River was supposed to be in it in Tasha's role, but Alex Kingston wasn't available so they changed the name at the last minute. Moffat later had to confirm this wasn't the case. Actually he really was just that unoriginal LOL. To be fair lots of people reuse character types, but yeah I only ever bring it up in regards to idiots who say Missy channelled Delgado and was the most faithful Master. No she f*cking isn't, she is Moffat doing what Sam Raimi did with Venom and not even attempting to try and do the character he's supposed to, and just reusing his old shit again. The fact that I'm always comparing Tasha to Missy should show you she isn't one of my favourite characters LOL. To be fair though Tasha is probably the least shit out of Moffat's four dominatrix Victorian nanny's. River was overused, and annoying with her obnoxious catchphrase "SPOILERS", Missy and Irene meanwhile both f*cked up classic characters, in a way that let's be honest was sexist and demeaning making out female villains have to want the male heroes cock, and had them both end up becoming damsels he has to rescue and cure. To be fair to Missy, Irene might have been even more offensive as they make out she is not bisexual, but a lesbian until she meets Sherlock, who also puts her on a better hetero path. Obviously I'm not saying that there was ANY homophobic intent as Moff clearly isn't and Gatiss is gay. I think Moffat was just living out his fantasy of being such a stud, even a lesbian falls for him (with Sherlock being his avatar LOL) but yeah from a distance it does look like the old Pussy Galore getting cured by Bond thing. The cure for lesbianism in the 60s is Big Sean's cock and the cure for it in the 2010s Benedict's big dick it would seem. Ogsood meanwhile I agree that shows I'm maybe a bit biased, but the actress is really good, her being part of UNIT gave her more potential, and ultimately that potential has been shown in a series of really good and popular UNIT audio stories where she is the lead character. Based on those whilst I may have been thinking with my knob a bit LOL. I was onto something there.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on May 3, 2024 20:45:06 GMT
She's incredibly adorable, like a human teddy bear. Proves herself to be loyal and brave. The actress is cute and bubbly too. Bang on. Lynda is one of those characters that I can't help but fall in love with. It saddens me even more that she isn't real lol.
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Post by mott1 on May 6, 2024 18:54:24 GMT
Do Shakespeare's works count? Because there's a few in there. Lady Macbeth really screwed things up for her husband (and by extension the UK/US House Of Cards series, which were clearly influenced by Macbeth - of the two of them I still thing the British one is far better).
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Post by burrunjor on Oct 2, 2024 10:48:28 GMT
Smallville's version of Lana Lang or Sam Raimi's version of Mary Jane Watson Buffy kind of qualifies for me based on how she treats Reilly and Spike post season-four. Okay a few things about this thread. First off I miss Yak. I like the way he picked up on my phrase Ducky, which nobody else ever has LOL. He can do no wrong in my mind for that. Honestly ducky needs to catch on, it's so perfect for the dorky, goes out of her way to make everybody feel welcome, bubbly girl. I suppose Sammy from Camp Cretaceous is a good word for it too, but not as many people know who Sammy is sadly as Ducky. Also typically Reddit absolutely hates Sammy. Honestly does Reddit just get it wrong for everything? They hate Sammy the most lovable character in anything? They take the side of rape enabler Daniel M Petrocelli over Gina Carano in court whilst claiming to be feminists, with said court case being a Saudi Arabia supporting company using a rape enabler to argue for its right to ruin her life because she didn't keep her mouth shut? They say Missy channelled Delgado and finally they also think The Late Philip J Fry, an episode of Futurama that destroys 5 years of building up one of the greatest love stories in fiction, and ends it with Leela, a kick ass, awesome role model to little girls ending up as a cradle robbing loser who is stabbed in the back by her friends, stabs her friends in the back and realises she has wasted her entire life,is the best episode of Futurama and go nuts if it is criticised? Yeah when watching those first four seasons of Futurama I definitely wanted to see Leela and Cubert shag each other. Anyway all that aside. I agree with you on Raimi's version of Mary Jane. Jesus Christ. Having a rewatch of the Raimi movies and honestly they don't hold up that well. The first one does. It's brilliant, but the second is one of the most overrated films of all time and one of the worst things about it is MJ. What a bitch dumping John Jameson at the altar like that. Even Mark Corrigan from Peep Show struggled to do that, she does it with a smile on her face. The El Dude brothers are easier to root for than Peter and MJ in the Raimi movies. Ehhhhh, Ehhhhh.
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Post by iank on Oct 2, 2024 12:34:40 GMT
Rose Tyler. What a canute.
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