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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 13:27:36 GMT
The Christmas Invasion 5/10 New Earth 5/10 Tooth and Claw 8/10 School Reunion 7/10 Girl in the Fireplace 6/10 Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel 7.5/10 The Idiot's Latern 1/10 The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit 5/10 Love and Monsters 7/10 Fear Her 0/10 Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 5.5/10
The Runaway Bride 4/10 Smith and Jones 8/10 The Shakespeare Code 8/10 Gridlock 8/10 Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks 9/10 The Lazarus Experiment 6.5/10 42 6/10 Human Nature/The Family of Blood 10/10 Blink 10/10 Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords 8/10
Voyage of the Damned 7/10 Partners in Crime 5/10 Fires of Pompeii 3/10 Planet of the Odd 4/10 The Sontaran Stratagem /The Poison Sky 7/10 The Doctor's Daughter 0/10 Unicorn and the Wasp 2/10 Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead 4/10 Midnight 8/10 Turn Left 4/10 Stolen Earth/Journey's End 3/10 The Next Doctor 7.5/10 Planet of the Dead 2/10 Waters of Mars 6/10 End of Time 6/10
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Post by rushy on Nov 22, 2022 13:36:36 GMT
The Christmas Invasion 4/10 New Earth 2/10 Tooth and Claw 3/10 School Reunion 7/10 Girl in the Fireplace 8/10 Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel 7/10 The Idiot's Lantern 1/10 The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit 9/10 Love and Monsters 2/10 Fear Her 3/10 Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 5/10
The Runaway Bride 6/10 Smith and Jones 7/10 The Shakespeare Code 7/10 Gridlock 10/10 Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks 4/10 The Lazarus Experiment 3/10 42 6/10 Human Nature/The Family of Blood 8/10 Blink 5/10 Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords 8/10
Voyage of the Damned 7/10 Partners in Crime 5/10 Fires of Pompeii 8/10 Planet of the Odd 7/10 The Sontaran Stratagem /The Poison Sky 7/10 The Doctor's Daughter 6/10 Unicorn and the Wasp 4/10 Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead 8/10 Midnight 5/10 Turn Left 5/10 Stolen Earth/Journey's End 9/10 The Next Doctor 6/10 Planet of the Dead 7/10 Waters of Mars 10/10 End of Time 10/10
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 22, 2022 14:26:52 GMT
The Christmas Invasion 5/10 New Earth 5/10 Tooth and Claw 8/10 School Reunion 7/10 Girl in the Fireplace 6/10 Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel 7.5/10 The Idiot's Latern 1/10 The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit 5/10 Love and Monsters 7/10 Fear Her 0/10 Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 5.5/10 The Runaway Bride 4/10 Smith and Jones 8/10 The Shakespeare Code 8/10 Gridlock 8/10 Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks 9/10 The Lazarus Experiment 6.5/10 42 6/10 Human Nature/The Family of Blood 10/10 Blink 10/10 Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords 8/10 Voyage of the Damned 7/10 Partners in Crime 5/10 Fires of Pompeii 3/10 Planet of the Odd 4/10 The Sontaran Stratagem /The Poison Sky 7/10 The Doctor's Daughter 0/10 Unicorn and the Wasp 2/10 Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead 4/10 Midnight 8/10 Turn Left 4/10 Stolen Earth/Journey's End 3/10 The Next Doctor 7.5/10 Planet of the Dead 2/10 Waters of Mars 6/10 End of Time 6/10 What did the Doctors Daughter ever do to you LOL. My ranking would go. The Christmas Invasion 2/10 New Earth -1/10 (yes that's a minus one, it's utter shit in every way.) Tooth and Claw 8/10 School Reunion 7/10 Girl in the Fireplace 6/10 Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel 9/10 The Idiot's Latern 1/10 The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit 11/10 Love and Monsters -1/10 Fear Her 4/10 Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 10/10 The Runaway Bride 7/10 Smith and Jones 10/10 The Shakespeare Code 10/10 Gridlock 8/10 Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks 9/10 The Lazarus Experiment 10/10 42 3/10 Human Nature/The Family of Blood 2/10 Blink 10/10 Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords 7/10 (the first two parts are a 10/10 each, but the last bit weighs the whole average down.) Voyage of the Damned 7/10 Partners in Crime 5/10 Fires of Pompeii 10/10 Planet of the Odd 6/10 The Sontaran Stratagem /The Poison Sky 7/10 The Doctor's Daughter 5/10 (It's not great but sorry Maxil no way is it a zero.) Unicorn and the Wasp 5/10 Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead 10/10 Midnight 10/10 Turn Left 10/10 Stolen Earth/Journey's End 6/10 The Next Doctor 10/10 Planet of the Dead 7/10 Waters of Mars 11/10 End of Time 5/10 On average series 3 is my best ranked series with 6 10/10 episodes. Not so surprising. And since we are here I might as well do the Eccelston era. Rose 5/10 The End of the World 3/10 The Unquiet Dead 7/10 The Slitheen two parter 3/10 Dalek 7/10 The Long Game 3/10 Fathers Day 5/10 The Moffat gas two parter 5/10 The Slitheen egg one 3/10 The Dalek two parter 6/10 Definitely the weakest series of the revival pre Capaldi
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Post by rushy on Nov 22, 2022 15:26:04 GMT
Definitely the weakest series of the revival pre Capaldi What about Series 6? That one basically disappeared up its own arse with the storyline. Although, granted, it is the only modern season to focus on an original villain.
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 22, 2022 15:44:46 GMT
Definitely the weakest series of the revival pre Capaldi What about Series 6? That one basically disappeared up its own arse with the storyline. Although, granted, it is the only modern season to focus on an original villain. I'll give you series 6's story arc is utter and complete shit. It's such a shame because series 5 began the story arc so well, so admittedly series 6 in some ways felt like an even bigger let down. Still I don't think 6 ever felt quite as bad as 1 for me in that the shit stuff in 6 was like bad sci fi, where as the bad stuff in 1 like the Anne Droid, Trinny and Suzannah robots, farting aliens, etc, felt like outright parodies of DW that you'd expect to see on Dead Ringers quite frankly. Also I think 6's highs were better than 1's to be honest, with the possible exception of Dalek. It is the weakest of Matt Smith's run though and far weaker than Tennant's last two seasons and the specials.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 17:42:56 GMT
The Christmas Invasion 5/10 New Earth 5/10 Tooth and Claw 8/10 School Reunion 7/10 Girl in the Fireplace 6/10 Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel 7.5/10 The Idiot's Latern 1/10 The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit 5/10 Love and Monsters 7/10 Fear Her 0/10 Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 5.5/10 The Runaway Bride 4/10 Smith and Jones 8/10 The Shakespeare Code 8/10 Gridlock 8/10 Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks 9/10 The Lazarus Experiment 6.5/10 42 6/10 Human Nature/The Family of Blood 10/10 Blink 10/10 Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords 8/10 Voyage of the Damned 7/10 Partners in Crime 5/10 Fires of Pompeii 3/10 Planet of the Odd 4/10 The Sontaran Stratagem /The Poison Sky 7/10 The Doctor's Daughter 0/10 Unicorn and the Wasp 2/10 Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead 4/10 Midnight 8/10 Turn Left 4/10 Stolen Earth/Journey's End 3/10 The Next Doctor 7.5/10 Planet of the Dead 2/10 Waters of Mars 6/10 End of Time 6/10 What did the Doctors Daughter ever do to you LOL. My ranking would go. The Christmas Invasion 2/10 New Earth -1/10 (yes that's a minus one, it's utter shit in every way.) Tooth and Claw 8/10 School Reunion 7/10 Girl in the Fireplace 6/10 Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel 9/10 The Idiot's Latern 1/10 The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit 11/10 Love and Monsters -1/10 Fear Her 4/10 Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 10/10 The Runaway Bride 7/10 Smith and Jones 10/10 The Shakespeare Code 10/10 Gridlock 8/10 Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks 9/10 The Lazarus Experiment 10/10 42 3/10 Human Nature/The Family of Blood 2/10 Blink 10/10 Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords 7/10 (the first two parts are a 10/10 each, but the last bit weighs the whole average down.) Voyage of the Damned 7/10 Partners in Crime 5/10 Fires of Pompeii 10/10 Planet of the Odd 6/10 The Sontaran Stratagem /The Poison Sky 7/10 The Doctor's Daughter 5/10 (It's not great but sorry Maxil no way is it a zero.) Unicorn and the Wasp 5/10 Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead 10/10 Midnight 10/10 Turn Left 10/10 Stolen Earth/Journey's End 6/10 The Next Doctor 10/10 Planet of the Dead 7/10 Waters of Mars 11/10 End of Time 5/10 On average series 3 is my best ranked series with 6 10/10 episodes. Not so surprising. And since we are here I might as well do the Eccelston era. Rose 5/10 The End of the World 3/10 The Unquiet Dead 7/10 The Slitheen two parter 3/10 Dalek 7/10 The Long Game 3/10 Fathers Day 5/10 The Moffat gas two parter 5/10 The Slitheen egg one 3/10 The Dalek two parter 6/10 Definitely the weakest series of the revival pre Capaldi The Doctor's Daughter is irremediable rubbish. "Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 10/10" I hope you get that pay check from RTD soon. Spend it wisely! Great to see a high rating for the Daleks in Manhattan two parter. I absolutely adore it. Series 3 is easily the best series of NuWho for me. Even the worst stuff (which funnily enough is a Chibnall story lol) isn't all that bad. As for Eccleston, I used to love Series 1 but watching it again recently made it realize how awful some of it is. Here's my ranking: Rose 5/10 The End of the World 3/10 The Unquiet Dead 2/10 (Sorry, I hate this) Aliens of London/World War Three 6.5/10 Dalek 5/10 The Long Game 4/10 Father's Day 5.5/10 The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances 7/10 (Would be an 8 without the "everybody lives" bullshit ending) Boom Town 6.5/10 Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways 9.5/10
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 22, 2022 19:04:50 GMT
What did the Doctors Daughter ever do to you LOL. My ranking would go. The Christmas Invasion 2/10 New Earth -1/10 (yes that's a minus one, it's utter shit in every way.) Tooth and Claw 8/10 School Reunion 7/10 Girl in the Fireplace 6/10 Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel 9/10 The Idiot's Latern 1/10 The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit 11/10 Love and Monsters -1/10 Fear Her 4/10 Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 10/10 The Runaway Bride 7/10 Smith and Jones 10/10 The Shakespeare Code 10/10 Gridlock 8/10 Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks 9/10 The Lazarus Experiment 10/10 42 3/10 Human Nature/The Family of Blood 2/10 Blink 10/10 Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords 7/10 (the first two parts are a 10/10 each, but the last bit weighs the whole average down.) Voyage of the Damned 7/10 Partners in Crime 5/10 Fires of Pompeii 10/10 Planet of the Odd 6/10 The Sontaran Stratagem /The Poison Sky 7/10 The Doctor's Daughter 5/10 (It's not great but sorry Maxil no way is it a zero.) Unicorn and the Wasp 5/10 Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead 10/10 Midnight 10/10 Turn Left 10/10 Stolen Earth/Journey's End 6/10 The Next Doctor 10/10 Planet of the Dead 7/10 Waters of Mars 11/10 End of Time 5/10 On average series 3 is my best ranked series with 6 10/10 episodes. Not so surprising. And since we are here I might as well do the Eccelston era. Rose 5/10 The End of the World 3/10 The Unquiet Dead 7/10 The Slitheen two parter 3/10 Dalek 7/10 The Long Game 3/10 Fathers Day 5/10 The Moffat gas two parter 5/10 The Slitheen egg one 3/10 The Dalek two parter 6/10 Definitely the weakest series of the revival pre Capaldi The Doctor's Daughter is irremediable rubbish. "Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 10/10" I hope you get that pay check from RTD soon. Spend it wisely! Great to see a high rating for the Daleks in Manhattan two parter. I absolutely adore it. Series 3 is easily the best series of NuWho for me. Even the worst stuff (which funnily enough is a Chibnall story lol) isn't all that bad. As for Eccleston, I used to love Series 1 but watching it again recently made it realize how awful some of it is. Here's my ranking: Rose 5/10 The End of the World 3/10 The Unquiet Dead 2/10 (Sorry, I hate this) Aliens of London/World War Three 6.5/10 Dalek 5/10 The Long Game 4/10 Father's Day 5.5/10 The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances 7/10 (Would be an 8 without the "everybody lives" bullshit ending) Boom Town 6.5/10 Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways 9.5/10 How? I mean don't get me wrong it's not great, but it is fairly bland, inoffensive, and well nothing really. It's not like say Love and Monsters which is mind numbingly stupid, and has a nasty streak through it, or say New Earth which manages to be dreary and campy as can be too. Also RTD blocked me remember LOL. I know you were just joking, but it's funny to think I'm the only one here who has literally got under his skin. I've topped Rob Filth in that respect. I brought up that he shouldn't be going on about how holier than thou he is, slagging off other shows for not being woke enough, when he works with Neil Patrick Harris, and he blocked me instantly. To be fair though some of my fave actors have since done terrible things like Mark Hamill raising money for drones so I guess I can't talk. At least I don't act all holier thon thou though, well most of the time LOL. The season 2 meanwhile finale is easily the best of the RTD finales. I'm personally baffled that you could give the season 1 finale a 9.5 rating? The Anne Droid is as bad as New Who ever got pre Missy. It's literally a parody of the show, and also as I've said before nothing about that story makes sense. Why did the time vortex kill Eccelston instead of Rose when she had it longer? How could an old obsolete type 40 TARDIS wipe out a Dalek fleet, yet they beat the Time Lords? I also think it is the most explicit of RTD's deux machina's by turning Rose into a god. The series 2 finale meanwhile holds together quite well, the alternate universe angle is used in quite an interesting and original way, the twists are geuninely unexpected like the Daleks coming out of the arc (which as a cliffhanger is up there with the best of old who.) Also at least it has the Doctor save the day too. The only heroic thing Eccelston did in his finale was kiss his teenage blonde companion. (Literally LOL. That in itself is a contrived reason for a kiss too btw.) I do concede though that a major point against Doomsday is turning the Cybermen into the Daleks bitch boys. I prefer the Daleks by a country mile, but even I think that was too much so in all fairness I guess I'd give it a 9 or an 8 out of respect for the Cybermen. Shame because they are used brilliantly in the first part.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 19:15:02 GMT
The Doctor's Daughter is irremediable rubbish. "Army of Ghosts/Doomsday 10/10" I hope you get that pay check from RTD soon. Spend it wisely! Great to see a high rating for the Daleks in Manhattan two parter. I absolutely adore it. Series 3 is easily the best series of NuWho for me. Even the worst stuff (which funnily enough is a Chibnall story lol) isn't all that bad. As for Eccleston, I used to love Series 1 but watching it again recently made it realize how awful some of it is. Here's my ranking: Rose 5/10 The End of the World 3/10 The Unquiet Dead 2/10 (Sorry, I hate this) Aliens of London/World War Three 6.5/10 Dalek 5/10 The Long Game 4/10 Father's Day 5.5/10 The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances 7/10 (Would be an 8 without the "everybody lives" bullshit ending) Boom Town 6.5/10 Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways 9.5/10 How? I mean don't get me wrong it's not great, but it is fairly bland, inoffensive, and well nothing really. It's not like say Love and Monsters which is mind numbingly stupid, and has a nasty streak through it, or say New Earth which manages to be dreary and campy as can be too. Also RTD blocked me remember LOL. I know you were just joking, but it's funny to think I'm the only one here who has literally got under his skin. I've topped Rob Filth in that respect. I brought up that he shouldn't be going on about how holier than thou he is, slagging off other shows for not being woke enough, when he works with Neil Patrick Harris, and he blocked me instantly. To be fair though some of my fave actors have since done terrible things like Mark Hamill raising money for drones so I guess I can't talk. At least I don't act all holier thon thou though, well most of the time LOL. The season 2 meanwhile finale is easily the best of the RTD finales. I'm personally baffled that you could give the season 1 finale a 9.5 rating? The Anne Droid is as bad as New Who ever got pre Missy. It's literally a parody of the show, and also as I've said before nothing about that story makes sense. Why did the time vortex kill Eccelston instead of Rose when she had it longer? How could an old obsolete type 40 TARDIS wipe out a Dalek fleet, yet they beat the Time Lords? I also think it is the most explicit of RTD's deux machina's by turning Rose into a god. The series 2 finale meanwhile holds together quite well, the alternate universe angle is used in quite an interesting and original way, the twists are geuninely unexpected like the Daleks coming out of the arc (which as a cliffhanger is up there with the best of old who.) Also at least it has the Doctor save the day too. The only heroic thing Eccelston did in his finale was kiss his teenage blonde companion. (Literally LOL. That in itself is a contrived reason for a kiss too btw.) I don't know, you might have point about Love and Monsters. Basing your main villain on Ian Levine probably wasn't the nicest thing to do. I think Elton represents Doctor Who forum obsessives who spend hours talking about it online. Oh God. I'M Elton! As for The Doctor's Daughter, it's just annoying crap. Maybe 0/10 was harsh but I REALLY didn't like it when I watched it the other day. It actually made me angry at how crap it was hence the poor score.
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Post by iank on Nov 22, 2022 20:36:55 GMT
Apart from maybe 3 or at most, they're basically all crap.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2022 23:26:44 GMT
One change I hated was they got rid of the decent Series 1-3 theme in Voyage of the Damned and replaced it with a charmless "rock" version which lacks the mystery and wonder that the theme is supposed to have. It's crap.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2022 0:30:34 GMT
Outside of Series 3, I think Masque of Mandragara is the best story to feature David Tennant
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Post by rushy on Dec 5, 2022 0:37:42 GMT
Outside of Series 3, I think Masque of Mandragara is the best story to feature David Tennant Thought I was the only one to notice that! He's also in "Star One"
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Post by iank on Dec 5, 2022 1:06:03 GMT
At least now we have a good answer to 'your favourite Tennant story'!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2022 0:41:56 GMT
I think Blink and Human Nature are his best, but Manhattan is probably my personal favourite. Even if it's obvious that it's just a Welsh park and a bunch of sets, I truly believe the characters in 1930s New York. It helps so much if you have an imagination and suspend your disbelief. It makes films and shows so much more enjoyable. Even in Superman IV I like to forget the facts and just believe they're in a bustling American metropolis rather than a leisure centre and an Argos in Milton Keynes.
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