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Post by zarius on Nov 9, 2022 15:52:49 GMT
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Nov 9, 2022 20:34:17 GMT
No one should say nice things about them. A healthy dose of merciless derision would do them a world of good.
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Post by iank on Nov 9, 2022 20:54:15 GMT
I can't see it. I guess it wasn't flattering? lol
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Post by rushy on Nov 10, 2022 7:10:46 GMT
I think it would've been fine to have him in the outfit, but I also really like the clothes regenerating as a nod to 60s Who weirdness.
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Post by Spark Doll King on Nov 10, 2022 23:21:26 GMT
I can't see it. I guess it wasn't flattering? lol It's the bottom pragraph. So after all the crap Chinballs included, drag of all things is a step to far? Even when Jodie's outfit is not what I call overtly feminine? Bollocks! It's yellow bellied attempt to get as many people on boarded with the Anniversary episode as possible.
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Post by iank on Nov 10, 2022 23:31:34 GMT
I meant I can't see the link, still can't on here though I've seen it elsewhere.
He is right though that the media would have massively extracted the urine.
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Post by Spark Doll King on Nov 10, 2022 23:33:54 GMT
I meant I can't see the link, still can't on here though I've seen it elsewhere. He is right though that the media would have massively extracted the urine. oh sorry
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Post by Spark Doll King on Nov 10, 2022 23:37:12 GMT
I meant I can't see the link, still can't on here though I've seen it elsewhere. He is right though that the media would have massively extracted the urine. I honestly would have cared less if not for the fact he and later who producers were including things that make "mild drag" look insignificant by comparison. Seems a bit of a funny time air on the side of caution.
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Post by iank on Nov 10, 2022 23:45:58 GMT
An indication of how badly he knows things have gone and the need to restore credibility as fast as possible?
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Post by henshin on Nov 11, 2022 0:44:42 GMT
......if RTD respected Tennant's wishes, maybe the coming specials won't be woke?
I mean, if Tennant can demand that in his regeneration, there's no question he demanded a treatment of the scrips for the forthcoming specials.
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Post by rushy on Nov 11, 2022 6:50:18 GMT
......if RTD respected Tennant's wishes, maybe the coming specials won't be woke? I mean, if Tennant can demand that in his regeneration, there's no question he demanded a treatment of the scrips for the forthcoming specials. I don't think Tennant had anything to do with it. Tennant's done drag and I don't think he's the type to really push his wishes onto the writer/producer.
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mistressrani
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Post by mistressrani on Nov 14, 2022 15:10:26 GMT
......if RTD respected Tennant's wishes, maybe the coming specials won't be woke? I mean, if Tennant can demand that in his regeneration, there's no question he demanded a treatment of the scrips for the forthcoming specials. I don't think Tennant had anything to do with it. Tennant's done drag and I don't think he's the type to really push his wishes onto the writer/producer. What is woke?
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 14, 2022 17:47:37 GMT
I don't think Tennant had anything to do with it. Tennant's done drag and I don't think he's the type to really push his wishes onto the writer/producer. What is woke? Woke these days alongside SJW is used to refer to phoney, poseur, pseudo liberals who virtue signal about meaningless, trivial bullshit like mansplaining and who make the most shallow, obvious statements like "smash the state" "down with racism" without giving any kind of context to make themselves look left wing to impress their friends or get a job for the guardian as the "angry feminist". They are the last people who will make any kind of meaningful analysis or take the risks that genuine left wingers do to their reputations and even lives like Sylvia Pankhurst, Martin Luther King, Julian Assange, John Mclean or even Jeremy Corbyn have all done. They will also most often be from upper middle class backgrounds and be quite conservative at heart themselves in some way, IE deep down they'll be guilty of the very prejudices they claim to fight against behind closed doors, and they'll almost always be class snobs too, who think that without them the working class will become Nazis. These kinds of "lefties" are the ones who get propped up by the media and the elite because they are safe and will never actually challenge them, but the elites can create an illusion to the masses that they are left wing and progressive through these poseurs. Case in point, Tony Blair claiming to be a left wing candidate because he has a set amount of women in his cabinet, which ticks a shallow left wing ideal of "representation", despite being a war hawk who backed the most right wing President in American history with George W Bush. Similarly Hillary Clinton, despite being one of the biggest war mongers in US history, topped only by George W Bush himself, is able to prance around like a feminist icon and be seen as an icon by self identified Marxists like Caitlin Moran due to "muh representation." These types of shallow poseur lefties have always existed. In the 60s they were the hippies who sang about peace and love, but by the 70s cut their hair and became bank managers and became the "LOT'S OF MONEY!" generation. In the 80s they were the punk poets going on about "Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, Out, Out, Out!" But who went on to form New Labour a few years later that destroyed and undermined genuine left wing politics in a way Thatcher could never have dreamed of. Nowadays they are called SJWs or woke or the regressive left, all ironic mocking terms, that they stupidly seem to think their critics mean genuinely. Like someone being called an Internet Tough Guy thinking "Ohhhh they think I'm really hard as they called me a tough guy." The only difference is that back in the day, genuine left wing satirists used to skewer these people and expose them as much as they did to the right. Frank Zappa who was as left as they come and wrote "Hungry Freaks Daddy" which honestly would make Genkimonk cream his pants LOL. Famously tore into hippies, whilst Rik Mayall who similarly eviscerated the Thatcher government with the new statesman tore these pricks apart with The Young Ones. Nowadays however as I have been over many, many, many, many times, modern comedians and satirists for the most part are cowards and media whores, so there is no real mainstream backlash or skewering of the poseur lefties which has allowed them to be seen as the genuine left. Sadly as the right are the only people calling them out, this has led to more people drifting to the right and left wing politics being undermined in general. Chris Chibnall meanwhile one hundred percent falls under the woke banner. He is a spoiled, upper middle class, shallow twerp, without a genuine political bone in his body, who will jump on any bandwagon that comes his way. Hence his previous attempts to jump on the hotter and sexier sci fi and fantasy bandwagon with the infamous cum line and rape fantasies in Torchwood. His turn to politics in Jodie's era meanwhile was this in spades. Everything he tackled was an easy issue that had already been won by previous generations, whilst the actual topical issues that could have got him in trouble, he ignored or supported the right wing elitist side of! For instance Rosa was designed to tackle the topical and brave issue of was Rosa Parks right (yeah really brave to support Rosa Parks in 2018.) Meanwhile another episode of his took the side of Amazon over its workers, an actual topical left wing issue that the Beeb might not have wanted him to raise. Then there is one of his stories trashing the old testament on tv, whilst portraying Islam (which is more of a taboo subject) as being accepting of homosexuals by having a bisexual Muslim woman be involved with the Doctor and having no fear of it (PS I am NOT saying there aren't Muslims who are accepting of homosexuals and that the old testament isn't a sick book, but something like DW shouldn't pick favourites with religion.) Best of all though is Chibnall completely and utterly destroying a 60 year history to crowbar a little black girl in as the first Doctor because apparently without the Doctor we won't have any black leads in sci fi shows and he needs to have black people see they matter, whilst defending the BBC as being something we need when there is a war, despite its propaganda over the current Israel/Palestine conflict being enough to make Joseph Goebbels blush. www.mend.org.uk/action-alert-complain-to-the-bbc-about-bias-against-palestine/I suspect you already knew all of this though and were trying the Culfy approach of just pretending to be dumb. Why people think that's a good argument I have no idea? Still now even you can't pretend not to know what we're saying when those phrases get brought up.
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Post by iank on Nov 14, 2022 20:51:47 GMT
I don't think Tennant had anything to do with it. Tennant's done drag and I don't think he's the type to really push his wishes onto the writer/producer. What is woke? I believe it's the contemporary term for "commie".
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 14, 2022 21:14:03 GMT
I believe it's the contemporary term for "commie". Allow me to digress for a moment: I don't think Malcolm Hulke, himself an ex-member of the Communist Party and a firm socialist, would have consciously written an appalling script where the Doctor says: "The systems aren't the problem".
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