Post by burrunjor on Oct 27, 2022 12:38:55 GMT
No strong roles for women in any of them.
You know damn well why people are opposed to a female Doctor and that it has nothing to do with not wanting female heroes, so cut that shit out right away. PS so far I've not had any female character get shoved up against a tree and asked if she cummed so hard she forgot where she was by one of my male characters, like the uber feminist Chris Chibnall. Maybe I should as that apparently that's how a non misogynist writes his female characters.
Meanwhile saying a woman can't play a particular character? Nope, not even remotely sexist. You see Rani, and I suspect your knowing this, you're just deliberately playing dumb to avoid the issue, not everyone can play every single character.
A bald, fat man can't play Xena, a 16 year old nerdy guy can't play Miss Marple etc. That's because in order for a character to exist in the first place, they have to have limits!
Xena is defined by being a big Amazonian, warrior woman, Miss Marple is defined by being an old, insufferable genius etc.
No on has ever said you can't have women play the same TYPE of characters as men, but actually having them be the specific same character? No, if you want a proper adaptation of that character, then more often than not, a characters gender will be part of their template, and that goes both ways.
Now it doesn't mean that you can't still tell a good story with a gender flipped character. For instance Elementary was a brilliant series, and Lucy Liu as ever was gorgeous, sexy, funny, and charismatic as Watson, but ultimately Elementary was not a faithful adaptation of Sherlock Holmes at all.
And don't give me the shit of "but the Doctor can be anyone." You know that isn't true. There are limits on what the Doctor can be. The point in the original was always that he changed yes, but not so much that you couldn't imagine it wasn't still William Hartnell. That is what gave the Doctor a character in the first place.
In the revival meanwhile, whilst it's true that they threw out the template of the Doctor from the start, (which is why it was always disliked by a hard core group of classic fans.) They still replaced it with a new template that ran through Eccelston, Tennant, Smith and Capaldi. IE those four Doctors work together as the one character. That worked for a new audience who weren't as famliar with the classic, but once Jodie came along?
She broke the template completely for both old and new fans, because fact is a gender change is a much bigger change. It's harder to imagine that it is still Hartnell when it is a woman, and it is harder to imagine that it is still Eccelston when it is a woman. On top of that, lots of male fans had got used to the Doctor in a certain way. Older fans saw him as more of a crazy uncle, grandfather figure, younger fans saw him as a more relatable, nerdy hero they could imagine themselves as etc, so turning him into a woman jarred for them. You can't say that is sexist. If the Doctor has to be a woman for little girl fans to look up to, then he has to be a man for little boys to look up to. Also plenty of female fans didn't like the change fo the same reason, of they had gotten used to him as a guy. Same way I wouldn't automatically be happy if Xena were remade with a man, just because I am a man. I like her as a female hero.
And it was worse than Elementary because Elementary was a remake, not connected to the previous Holmes and also at this stage there have been so many versions of the great detective, that who cares if one is unfaithful, you have hundreds of other faithful ones to choose from.
This however is the only continuity for DW, so if you f*ck it up, it's going to piss off people all the more.
Sure enough ALL of these points were proven correct, hence why in order to win both old and new who fans back they have now had to actually go back the way for the first time to remind people it is the same character, as well as cram any old actor still alive from the classic era, including a 97 year old William Russell.
You know this Rani, but sadly you try and boil it down to the most simplistic and stupid explanation of "you, that guy that's always going on about female singers until he bores people, who has created dozens of female characters and female led series, you just don't like women starring in tv shows." So you don't have to answer these legit criticisms against your lord and masters the Fitzroy Crowd.
