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Post by ClockworkOcean on Sept 29, 2021 15:10:53 GMT
The Men Who Never Would
A good, wholesome morality tale about how guns are never the answer in the spirit of Parting of the Ways and Journey's End, albeit in a pure historical context. The Doctor and xir new companion who is [MAJOR SPOILER ALERT] a twenty-something girl from central London, travel back in time to 1939 to admonish Churchill and Atlee (who are revealed to have had a secret gay relationship) for declaring war on the Nazis instead of just waiting for the inevitable deus ex machina to come along and sort it all out. Having previously been unaware that this how all conflicts with genocidal tyrants are 100% guaranteed to end, the pair apologise for their ignorance and call off the war effort. The Doctor opens the TARDIS doors by doing [insert most popular TikTok dance circa November 2023] and saunters off, smugly satisfied with a job well done. The episode ends with a recreation of the ending scene from Day of the Doctor, beginning with a monologue from the Doctor boasting about having successfully averted WW2. All eighteen televised Doctors (or however many more Chibnall has added by that point), joined by Hitler and Goebbels (who are also gay), gaze out upon a cold, grey Earth deadened by apocalyptic nuclear war, while the most pompous and overdramatic rendition of "I am The Doctor" yet plays in the background.
Claudia Boleyn, Paul Cornell, Jon Blum and Mr TARDIS instantly delcare the episode a masterpice accuse anyone who disagrees of being a Nazi.
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Post by mott1 on Oct 1, 2021 9:46:28 GMT
Is the Tardis going to turn into a gay man too?
Previously it was played by Billie Piper, so if this isn't modernised and made relevant to a modern audience (ie the showrunner) it will be slammed as 'chromosomist'.
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Post by burrunjor on Oct 1, 2021 11:58:21 GMT
Brilliant! Only minor quibble is that Claudia Boleyn is nowhere near as bad as Mr Tardis, Paul Cornell or any of the GB canutes.
I have always felt that Claudia was more reasonable. Obvs I still criticised her opinions, and fair enough I did often use her as a go to example of SJWs because she was a bit better known than say Whovian Feminism (who now it seems has forgotten DW and just shills for the democrats instead.) Still Claudia was never an egocentric dick like Paul Cornell, a chancer licking whatever arse she had to like Mr Tardis. (Proof of that was that Claudia did get the sack from DWM when she didn't toe the party line. Mr Tardis meanwhile I can picture in that scenario being like Mr Burns when he is asked to squirm "yes sir is this to your liking?")
Also she was always genuinely civil in debates and to be fair to her, based on her twitter page, though I haven't look at it in a while, she seems to be focused on far more worthy political causes these days and seems to be more of a genuine lefty in that she is an unapologetic supporter of Corbyn. Really I think she just fell into identity politics and got trapped there but is now making a move to more proper left wing politics.
Added to that she is at least genuinely talented as a singer/songwriter and feels less like a parasite just using the show to launch her career like Crystal Dee, who fokked off as soon as the ship started to sink and she got what she wanted.
Of course that doesn't mean you can't and shouldn't criticise Claudia and her opinions LOL. Still I don't know I feel she is the least annoying of all the DW SJWs, and ironically after being fired by Benji Cock she is now in the same position as us, IE a voice he and the Cardiff twats don't want to hear.
Also to be fair to her whilst I wouldn't say he was a misogynist, there were iffy things about the way Moff wrote women in hindsight. Once again I think we are seeing the Mary Whitehouse syndrome here, of Claudia and the other tumblr feminists took it too far in their criticisms of Moffat that any genuine grievances they had were lost in the mix. Like when they accused Asylum of the Daleks of promoting that the mentally ill be exterminated, or that he was promoting rape.
Still he DID reuse the same shitty female character type again and again, River, Missy, Irene, Tasha etc, and he did turn the 11th Doctor into a jack the lad arsehole. Also this scene is very dodgy. I was wrong to criticise the feminists for calling it out I admit. I thought this scene was just a comedy moment like Blackadder kissing Baldrick, but it's way more fokking iffy than that.
I love the way they advertise it as the Doctor and Jenny kiss LOL. More like the Doctor forces himself on a sexualized lesbian ninja!
Sorry I went off on one then, I just always like to be fair LOL. Nullain, Culfy and Omie are the next in line for biggest canutes in the Doctor Who fandom after Mr Tardis, Paul Cornell, Benji Cock etc. Hell I'd even rank them above Jon Blum, who though annoying, isn't cowardly and a nasty, dog pilling bully like Culfy, completely psychotic and deranged like Nullain, or at least as sneering, arrogant and obnoxious as Omie. Jon Blum's arrogance is more being full of himself, less of a nasty "you're a sad anorak ming mong type" like Omie.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Mar 15, 2024 15:36:44 GMT
The Men Who Never WouldA good, wholesome morality tale about how guns are never the answer in the spirit of Parting of the Ways and Journey's End, albeit in a pure historical context. The Doctor and xir new companion who is [MAJOR SPOILER ALERT] a twenty-something girl from central London, travel back in time to 1939 to admonish Churchill and Atlee (who are revealed to have had a secret gay relationship) for declaring war on the Nazis instead of just waiting for the inevitable deus ex machina to come along and sort it all out. Having previously been unaware that this how all conflicts with genocidal tyrants are 100% guaranteed to end, the pair apologise for their ignorance and call off the war effort. The Doctor opens the TARDIS doors by doing [insert most popular TikTok dance circa November 2023] and saunters off, smugly satisfied with a job well done. The episode ends with a recreation of the ending scene from Day of the Doctor, beginning with a monologue from the Doctor boasting about having successfully averted WW2. All eighteen televised Doctors (or however many more Chibnall has added by that point), joined by Hitler and Goebbels (who are also gay), gaze out upon a cold, grey Earth deadened by apocalyptic nuclear war, while the most pompous and overdramatic rendition of "I am The Doctor" yet plays in the background. Claudia Boleyn, Paul Cornell, Jon Blum and Mr TARDIS instantly delcare the episode a masterpice accuse anyone who disagrees of being a Nazi. I'm unsure if this is any worse than what we actually received in 2023... |
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 15, 2024 15:45:40 GMT
The Men Who Never WouldA good, wholesome morality tale about how guns are never the answer in the spirit of Parting of the Ways and Journey's End, albeit in a pure historical context. The Doctor and xir new companion who is [MAJOR SPOILER ALERT] a twenty-something girl from central London, travel back in time to 1939 to admonish Churchill and Atlee (who are revealed to have had a secret gay relationship) for declaring war on the Nazis instead of just waiting for the inevitable deus ex machina to come along and sort it all out. Having previously been unaware that this how all conflicts with genocidal tyrants are 100% guaranteed to end, the pair apologise for their ignorance and call off the war effort. The Doctor opens the TARDIS doors by doing [insert most popular TikTok dance circa November 2023] and saunters off, smugly satisfied with a job well done. The episode ends with a recreation of the ending scene from Day of the Doctor, beginning with a monologue from the Doctor boasting about having successfully averted WW2. All eighteen televised Doctors (or however many more Chibnall has added by that point), joined by Hitler and Goebbels (who are also gay), gaze out upon a cold, grey Earth deadened by apocalyptic nuclear war, while the most pompous and overdramatic rendition of "I am The Doctor" yet plays in the background. Claudia Boleyn, Paul Cornell, Jon Blum and Mr TARDIS instantly delcare the episode a masterpice accuse anyone who disagrees of being a Nazi. I'm unsure if this is any worse than what we actually received in 2023... It's not far off Mavity I'll give you that. As for latest tik tok trend of 2023, well again. Only thing he got wrong was that it wouldn't be the latest trend. It would be an out of date reference. Meanwhile his character description fits Ruby Sunday perfectly LOL. I'd also like to say so glad this old post that was dug out before me and Claudia became friends has me defending her haha. To be fair I'm a bit harder on Omie here since we made up, but still we both know we called the other one a c*nt and have apologised for it in the past so it's all good, I hope. I also think I was a bit hard on Crystal Dee calling her a parasite as in all fairness she's never done anything wrong to anybody in the fandom. Again I guess that was the last stages of my tribal mindset of I'm on one side, all the "sjw" fans are on the other. |
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Mar 16, 2024 3:35:08 GMT
Yes, it would seem I did give the man too much credit in that respect. I also underestimated the degree of stupidity on offer by making Atlee, Churchill, Hitler and Goebbels merely gay as opposed to also being race-swapped... which in light of the Google Gemini scandal would at least have been more relevant than the f*cking Spice Girls.  |
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Post by rushy on Mar 16, 2024 3:49:55 GMT
I can't hate the Spice Girls sequence. I'm sorry, but I can't. I'm a slut for musicals and rococo. If they did the bi-regeneration during those few minutes, I'd be singing its praises too.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Mar 16, 2024 10:49:11 GMT
I love the "I can't decide" scene in Last of the Time Lords. The Giggle scene is nowhere near and I prefer the Spice Girls song.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Mar 18, 2024 21:58:21 GMT
0:36-1:20 is the best musical moment in NuWho. I remember the song being on the radio around the same time. I quite like it.
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