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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Nov 18, 2024 21:42:34 GMT
Cobra Kai is the best and beats out Dave Dwarf simply because it takes the source material and improves upon it in every way. I love the original trilogy, but the show has taken the characters and the premise into new territory. The whole thing should be used to as a template for how to successfully resurrect something from the past with love and respect while adding to the legacy. Completely unfamiliar with the franchise, but I've heard a lot of people say that. Always nice to see a franchise that doesn't shit on its fans and respects the source material. It's interesting because in 2012 I got into the original Karate Kid films when Doctor Who was still massively popular with Smith and the Ponds. It never ever occurred to me at the time that over a decade later The Karate Kid saga would not only be in a better place in terms of quality and popularity, but actually boast one of the most defining revival shows in Cobra Kai. There have been six seasons of it since 2018. There have only been six seasons of Doctor Who in the last ten years. Even the current season has a total of fifteen episodes while NuWho now has a measly total of eight. While Doctor Who hasn't had any indication that it's going to be returning for a third year (lol), there is a new Karate Kid movie being released in 2025 and possible spin offs beyond that. I wish I could go back and tell my spotty Karate Kid obsessed self back in 2012 about the gold he was in for. At the time it seemed like, much with the Rocky series, it was all done and dusted and a thing of the past. |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 18, 2024 22:43:45 GMT
Completely unfamiliar with the franchise, but I've heard a lot of people say that. Always nice to see a franchise that doesn't shit on its fans and respects the source material. It's interesting because in 2012 I got into the original Karate Kid films when Doctor Who was still massively popular with Smith and the Ponds. It never ever occurred to me at the time that over a decade later The Karate Kid saga would not only be in a better place in terms of quality and popularity, but actually boast one of the most defining revival shows in Cobra Kai. There have been six seasons of it since 2018. There have only been six seasons of Doctor Who in the last ten years. Even the current season has a total of fifteen episodes while NuWho now has a measly total of eight. While Doctor Who hasn't had any indication that it's going to be returning for a third year (lol), there is a new Karate Kid movie being released in 2025 and possible spin offs beyond that. I wish I could go back and tell my spotty Karate Kid obsessed self back in 2012 about the gold he was in for. At the time it seemed like, much with the Rocky series, it was all done and dusted and a thing of the past. Awesome! Sadly though you're wrong. Since 2014, there have been 5 seasons LOL. Remember Flux is a miniseries so it doesn't count. So yeah, 2 Capaldi, 2 Jodie and 1 Ncuti. Everything else just specials and mini series. By the time series 2 rolls around in 2025 that will be six series in 11 years and given there will be another gap in 2026 assuming another series is even made, then that will be 6 in 12 years lmao. Thank god we don't have JNT dragging the show into an abyss though. I mean he only made 9 series in 9 years, the shortest of which were still longer than any New Who series since 2018, and the longest of which were twice as long as any Capaldi for 5 years and he did it whilst having the Beeb work against him and not Disney or his episodes shown in the cinema. He clearly wasn't fit for purpose though. |
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Post by rushy on Nov 18, 2024 23:04:26 GMT
I don't think John was fit for purpose. I think he just looks better now that standards have fallen so massively. John apprenticed as early as the Troughton era, so even at his worst he was still ingrained with a certain level of respect towards the production and the audience. Even if he wanted to do things differently and had his eccentric ideas, just the fact that he was taught by the likes of Barry Letts is reflected in his leadership style. He's a competent producer, just not one who should've run Doctor Who for a decade straight.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Nov 20, 2024 16:17:49 GMT
What are some TV show revivals that you've managed to enjoy? Doesn't have to be a classic, but a respectable continuation that at least adds something interesting to the legacy of the original. *Red Dwarf I think is the most popular option around here, as it has largely retained everything that made the show good to begin with whilst providing new and exciting material. *Twin Peaks is perhaps the weirdest case, as it's less of a revival and more of an excuse for David Lynch to go completely nuts with his artistic experimentations. It's technically not even a TV show anymore, because they wrote and filmed it as a continuous 18-hour movie, so the style/pacing/format is completely different from the original. But there's still lots to love if you can chew through it. Of all the shows, I think Twin Peaks feels the most like 25 years has passed because of the plot device of Cooper being frozen in time. So he comes out and there's just a sadness and exhaustion to him as he emerges into a very different world. (cue an attempt to sell this show to burrunjor because there's demon monsters and hot women) *Columbo is the opposite of Peaks, it's a show that changed absolutely nothing about itself. That can be disappointing when the original is so classic and has a 70s flavour that's missing from the later ones. But occasionally there is another great episode and it's nice to have more. Peter Falk is still great, and the Patrick McGoohan episodes are fantastic. I also really love "Undercover" and "Columbo Goes to College" (which has a cameo from Robert Culp, a famous 1970s Columbo three-time killer) I've not seen Twin Peaks though I know Heather Graham plays a character called Annie in it. She looks nice. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Nov 20, 2024 16:18:55 GMT
It's interesting because in 2012 I got into the original Karate Kid films when Doctor Who was still massively popular with Smith and the Ponds. It never ever occurred to me at the time that over a decade later The Karate Kid saga would not only be in a better place in terms of quality and popularity, but actually boast one of the most defining revival shows in Cobra Kai. There have been six seasons of it since 2018. There have only been six seasons of Doctor Who in the last ten years. Even the current season has a total of fifteen episodes while NuWho now has a measly total of eight. While Doctor Who hasn't had any indication that it's going to be returning for a third year (lol), there is a new Karate Kid movie being released in 2025 and possible spin offs beyond that. I wish I could go back and tell my spotty Karate Kid obsessed self back in 2012 about the gold he was in for. At the time it seemed like, much with the Rocky series, it was all done and dusted and a thing of the past. Awesome! Sadly though you're wrong. Since 2014, there have been 5 seasons LOL. Remember Flux is a miniseries so it doesn't count. So yeah, 2 Capaldi, 2 Jodie and 1 Ncuti. Everything else just specials and mini series. By the time series 2 rolls around in 2025 that will be six series in 11 years and given there will be another gap in 2026 assuming another series is even made, then that will be 6 in 12 years lmao. Thank god we don't have JNT dragging the show into an abyss though. I mean he only made 9 series in 9 years, the shortest of which were still longer than any New Who series since 2018, and the longest of which were twice as long as any Capaldi for 5 years and he did it whilst having the Beeb work against him and not Disney or his episodes shown in the cinema. He clearly wasn't fit for purpose though. Surely Flux does count as a proper series. It's still officially Series 13 and only two episodes shorter than Season 1. |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 20, 2024 16:54:47 GMT
I don't think John was fit for purpose. I think he just looks better now that standards have fallen so massively. John apprenticed as early as the Troughton era, so even at his worst he was still ingrained with a certain level of respect towards the production and the audience. Even if he wanted to do things differently and had his eccentric ideas, just the fact that he was taught by the likes of Barry Letts is reflected in his leadership style. He's a competent producer, just not one who should've run Doctor Who for a decade straight. I do agree that now that standards have fallen so low it is hard to judge a bad DW episode anymore LOL. Even an absolute stinker like Time Flight you think "well at least it didn't f*ck up decades of history like the Timeless Children, at least it didn't have the Doctor shag a bounty hunter because he's haaaaawwwwt, at least it didn't have the Master be a woman who got off with the Doctor, or the Brig as a Cyberman etc." It's the same with the Sci Fi genre in general to be honest. Still even before New Who came about I thought JNT was a decent enough producer. He is definitely the weakest of the main ones. Verity Lambert, Barry Letts, Philip Hinchcliff, Graham Williams, the guys and woman who all had proper runs (a lot of the others were only there for a year, or in some cases a few episodes.) However overall he was beset with more problems than they were, including being forced to stay on at least four years longer than he wanted by the BBC. Under those circumstances I think he did an exceptional job, and even without that I think it's more a case of JNT reached the same highs as all the previous producers, and the quality was overall just as good, but he sadly reached greater lows than they did too, some of which was his fault, but most of it was beyond his control. His two weakest seasons for instance, 23 and 24 were both an absolute cluster f*ck behind the scenes it's amazing they got made at all. Meanwhile I don't think anyone should run DW for a decade. That is one area where it is about change ironically. It needs new creative teams to come in and refresh the types of adventures the Doctor goes on and only when it does that, does it thrive. Sadly however had JNT left from at least Trial on then it would have been axed and the fact that he turned it around after 7 years and gave us two classic seasons at the end, again says a lot about his devotion to the show. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Nov 20, 2024 17:17:47 GMT
"Favourite revivals"
I would say Not Going Out, but the gap between Series 7 (the original final series) and Series 8 (the start of the new era) is only three years. The title of third longest running sitcom also seems to suggest that it never actually ended in the first place. I've always viewed Series 1-7 and Series 8-current as two separate versions of the same show. When you watch the first episode of Series 1 and then watch the 2023 Christmas Special it's hard to believe it's the same thing. Still, it's the best 2000s UK sitcom by a country mile. It's old fashioned compared to the likes of Mrs Brown's Boys, but in today's world that's not a bad thing at all. I like the new stuff just fine although it isn't as good as it used to be.
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 20, 2024 18:05:43 GMT
"Favourite revivals" I would say Not Going Out, but the gap between Series 7 (the original final series) and Series 8 (the start of the new era) is only three years. The title of third longest running sitcom also seems to suggest that it never actually ended in the first place. I've always viewed Series 1-7 and Series 8-current as two separate versions of the same show. When you watch the first episode of Series 1 and then watch the 2023 Christmas Special it's hard to believe it's the same thing. Still, it's the best 2000s UK sitcom by a country mile. It's old fashioned compared to the likes of Mrs Brown's Boys, but in today's world that's not a bad thing at all. I like the new stuff just fine although it isn't as good as it used to be. I enjoyed the show and I liked the second girl, but I don't think it's the best British sitcom of the 00s. To be honest it always came over as a middle of the road one to me, but in a good way. IE not bad, perfectly watchable, always amusing, but not particularly groundbreaking or laugh out loud funny. For me The Office was absolutely hysterical, as are numerous versions of Alan Partridge, and Black Books as well. Also Still Game in its first 7 years was absolutely fantastic. Sadly its revival was absolute bullshit for the most part. |
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Post by rushy on Nov 20, 2024 18:27:08 GMT
I've not seen Twin Peaks though I know Heather Graham plays a character called Annie in it. She looks nice. Allow me to introduce the Twin Peaks girls.  |
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Post by rushy on Nov 20, 2024 18:32:39 GMT
Sherilyn Fenn is my favourite, she has those crazy Jack Nicholson eyebrows.  |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 20, 2024 18:58:07 GMT
I know Claire Stansfield is in Twin Peaks too as far as babes are concerned, but sadly she doesn't torture anyone in it.
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Post by rushy on Nov 20, 2024 20:24:10 GMT
She had a cute role as a clerk. Even our hero had to whistle
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Post by rushy on Nov 20, 2024 20:26:30 GMT
I hope y'all watch it, so more people become exposed to the insanity of David Lynch. He makes Patrick McGoohan look straightforward.
The revival of Twin Peaks is like if McGoohan did a sequel show to the Prisoner where every episode was in the same chaotic style as Fall Out
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Nov 20, 2024 20:44:24 GMT
I've not seen Twin Peaks though I know Heather Graham plays a character called Annie in it. She looks nice. Allow me to introduce the Twin Peaks girls. Isn't the one on the left called Lara? She's the hot chick in Men in Black II as well. |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 20, 2024 20:45:10 GMT
She had a cute role as a clerk. Even our hero had to whistle Who did Claire or Sherilynn? I have trouble imagining Claire as cute haha so I reckon it is the latter who does look very cute. There are 100s of different ways women can be attractive. Some like Stacey Solomon and Aimee Garcia are just so f*cking adorable you want to hug them and bask in their kindness and sweetness. Others like Claire's role as Alti, you want her to chain you up and ravage you until you've lost the ability to tell the difference between pain and pleasure (oh dear did I sound like Chibbers there LOL. Also I'm sure Claire is lovely in real life and is attractive overall, but I just mean her acting persona is too big and threatening in a sexy way to be cute.) In all seriousness one Claire Stansfield film people should check out is Sweepers. It's an incredible movie about the horrors America inflicted on countries using Land Mines (I have a feeling Bernard Marx and Genkimonk would like it, welcome back Genki btw.) Sadly the movie is more relevant today since Biden authorised the use of land mines recently in what is easily one of the most obscene things any President has done including Bush of the last 20 years. As Sweepers shows land mines continue to maim and kill scores of innocent people decades after they were dropped. Men, women and children aren't safe in their own countries thanks to these vile weapons and Biden is actually happy to authorise more being dropped in civillian territories ensuring that more innocent people will die for decades after. I normally wouldn't wish dementia on anyone, but I really hope he suffers. |
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