The Devil's Chord-Beatles Musical To Have No Beatles Music

[zarius]

As Davies tells Empire – in a major new joint interview with Gatwa to celebrate the show’s latest regeneration – the notion of doing a Beatles episode has always hit a certain stumbling block. But, that in itself became a source of inspiration. “I knew instantly you can never play Beatles songs on screen because the copyright is too expensive. So I’m thinking, ‘How would you do a Beatles episode without Beatles music?’ And that becomes the entire plot,” Davies explains. “That’s where the idea came from – copyright law!” It also came from a conversation that proved to Davies that the legacy of The Beatles still has meaning for younger generations. “There’s a young director called Sam Arbor who I’ve kind of been mentoring for a while, and when I told him I was going back to Doctor Who, he was just 21 and said, ‘Oh my God, if I had a TARDIS, I’d go back and watch the Beatles recording their first album’,” says Davies. “And I thought for a 21-year-old to say that must mean there’s something to that idea.”

www.empireonline.com/tv/news/doctor-who-beatles-episode-sprang-from-age-old-problem/

[cyberhat]

It should be a Jimi Hendrix episode if it's about the devils chord, that's the start of Purple Haze

[Cherry Pepsi Maxil]

Remembrance had Beatles songs, though?

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Apr 9, 2024 16:35:46 GMT cyberhat said:

It should be a Jimi Hendrix episode if it's about the devils chord, that's the start of Purple Haze

I'm anticipating the Doctor's gonna yap about the tritone being the devil's interval and banned by the church when there is no record of that ever being the case; it's quite an essential interval even in basic chord progressions that will have been widely used in the middle ages and Renaissance. 

[rushy]

Apr 9, 2024 16:36:46 GMT Cherry Pepsi Maxil said:

Remembrance had Beatles songs, though?

Wasn't it just the music?

I remember reading that The Prisoner is the only show they ever licensed a full song to. 

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Apr 9, 2024 18:56:45 GMT rushy said:

Apr 9, 2024 16:36:46 GMT Cherry Pepsi Maxil said:

Remembrance had Beatles songs, though?

Wasn't it just the music?

I remember reading that The Prisoner is the only show they ever licensed a full song to. 

The newest releases of the Prisoner contain the Beatles songs, when I believe the songs that were licensed to Doctor Who were stripped? I could be wrong though

[iank]

There was one on the jukebox in the cafe in Remembrance. I think it was changed for the first DVD release but restored for the special edition IIRC.

[burrunjor]

Don't forget The Chase. They were originally going to be in it. 

Oh did anyone see that incredibly inappropriate story that Jon Blum's wife, what's her name again, Kate Orman? Wrote about John Lennon? f*ck me how was that published. 

[burrunjor]

Apr 9, 2024 16:35:46 GMT cyberhat said:

It should be a Jimi Hendrix episode if it's about the devils chord, that's the start of Purple Haze

Jimi Hendrix also apparently met aliens too. If mad conspiracy theories online are to be believed LOL. It was apparently an alien with yellow skin, and lemon shaped bald head. It also contacted him telepathically in the snow but didn't abduct him. 

Incidentally John Lennon also saw a UFO in New York. I've always loved that story. Unlike the Hendrix one, it was actually something Lennon and his lover at the time May Pang always insisted happened. 

It was here that the infamous "John Lennon sighting of the UFO" happened. The story is told that John Lennon was standing naked on the terrace (while May was in the shower) and had noticed a UFO hovering above. He then started to yell for May and she came running out to find out what was going on. May had seen it also.

John also had spoken to Bob Gruen (a photographer for Lennon at that time) and explained what he had saw. Gruen had asked him if he had notified the police. John's response was "What am I going to do, call the police and say, 'Hi, its John Lennon and I've just seen a UFO over New York...' They'll think, 'What is he on now?'"

Bob then called the NYPD and told them who he was and about the incident and the response from the phone was "Where did you see it? On 52nd street? You're the third call we have received about this." In the Record of U.F.O. Sightings, over 400 people called about that particular sighting.

John took some photos and asked Bob to develop them, but they came out blank.

Do the Beatles have an audience on other planets, and these greys had just stopped to try and get Lennon's autograph, but were too shy at the last minute? 

PS finding out what happened to this UFO would have been a better way of getting Lennon into the show to be honest. It wouldn't be about him, it would just be the lead in to an alien story set in 70s New York. 

[Ludders II]

Still… you would go and see The Beatles recording in Abbey Road, wouldn’t you?

No.
I'd go back to Hamburg to see them, and say:
"Stay here. Don't go back to England, it's crap. Or alternatively, there's a scene brewing in Outer Mongolia. The pay is absolutely fantastic.
Honest."

Also, the so called "Devil's Chord" (Diminished chord) goes all the way back to the middle ages. It was basically forbidden to use it. Although there are tales of a singing black knight called Sir Oswald Osborne, frequently flouting this rule. 😛

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Apr 9, 2024 23:54:04 GMT Ludders II said:

Still… you would go and see The Beatles recording in Abbey Road, wouldn’t you?

Also, the so called "Devil's Chord" (Diminished chord) goes all the way back to the middle ages. It was basically forbidden to use it. Although there are tales of a singing black knight called Sir Oswald Osborne, frequently flouting this rule. 😛

It's the devil's interval you're thinking of, which is the tritone, and no it was never forbidden. Like I said before, it's instrumental in basic chord progressions.

[Ludders II]

Apr 10, 2024 10:18:46 GMT @theyakemperor said:

Apr 9, 2024 23:54:04 GMT Ludders II said:

Also, the so called "Devil's Chord" (Diminished chord) goes all the way back to the middle ages. It was basically forbidden to use it. Although there are tales of a singing black knight called Sir Oswald Osborne, frequently flouting this rule. 😛

It's the devil's interval you're thinking of, which is the tritone, and no it was never forbidden. Like I said before, it's instrumental in basic chord progressions.

Like you said before? 

Yes, strictly speaking the tritone (we used to call it the flattened 5th, or diminished fifth) is not a chord, but it is integral to the diminished chord.
As for it being 'forbidden', again perhaps not by strict definition, but the second paragraph here, explains what I was getting at:

www.classicfm.com/discover-music/music-theory/what-is-a-tritone/

[iank]

The plot of this ep seems to have been ripped off not just from the film Yesteryear but also the BF 5th Doctor story Fanfare for the Common Men, from about 10 years ago.
RTD the bastion of new ideas as ever.

[cyberhat]

Apr 12, 2024 1:53:42 GMT iank said:

The plot of this ep seems to have been ripped off not just from the film Yesteryear but also the BF 5th Doctor story Fanfare for the Common Men, from about 10 years ago.
RTD the bastion of new ideas as ever.

Yesteryear, all my troubles seeemed so far from near

[burrunjor]

Jesus Christ these are some of the worst lookalikes I've ever seen. 

They're not even trying anymore are they?