Post by burrunjor on Mar 21, 2024 11:12:06 GMT
Now some people think he didn't really say this, as it does sound like PR speak. Then again you do have to remember that Capaldi was a willing participant in all that woke shit from his era. As a leading man he could have put his foot down. Eccelston quit, Jon Pertwee refused to do certain things that he thought weren't right for the show like overt comedy. Hell even David Tennant rightfully didn't do that story that would have been RTD kissing JK Rowling's arse for 45 mins (oh how times change LOL.) Capaldi however? He happily demeaned himself as a man, and was 100 percent happy to see the Master be vandalized with Missy. He also attended that awful woman's march in 2017 whilst he was still in the show, which was an absolute disgrace. Never seen a bigger collection of phony, insincere, upper middle class, conservative career activists in my life than that march.
Still if he DID say this then any ounce of sympathy I have for him is gone. To start with way to insult 60s Who. I'd take Barbara and Zoe as strong leading ladies before Clara who literally said "I travelled through all of time and space because I fancy him". Also as far as even the genre itself was concerned, I must have imagined the charismatic leading lady Emma Peel back in the 60s? Cathy Gale? Both of whom I think enjoyed more success than Jodie. Meanwhile when it comes to left wing politics, I'll take the Daleks, a powerful, nuanced look at race hatred, man's destructive effect on the environment and fascism that was years ahead of its time, over "those bloody little riff raff workers going on strike" from Kerblam, or celebrating meeting the groper in chief, war criminal Bill Clinton as a milestone in the life of Rosa Parks, or comparing her to Barack "we tortured some folks" drone king Obama.
Also again who the f*ck does he think he is that he can tell fans they aren't fans for not accepting a total basterdisation of the Master? Yeah Capaldi, I actually liked the Master. I wanted to see a proper, updated version of him, not Moffat's tedious taming a badgirl fantasy thrust on me for the FOURTH f*cking time. As a fan, I hate seeing the Master have to be completely rewritten into a new and worse character, to the point where I can't read a Roger Delgado biography without seeing bare faced lies that he wanted to make the Master shag the Doctor, just to make it fit with your crap.
Also again why the f*ck do you think Jodie and Michelle's performances were even significant to women in the genre? As we've been over many times genre fans have had decades of strong, charismatic LGBT female heroes. They clearly didn't like Jodie and Michelle because they felt the female versions jarred after so many men in the role, a reasonable criticism, and also because they were appallingly written and acted! Like I said Missy was River Song, an already tedious character for the fourth time.
Missy and Jodie did NOTHING for women in the genre. They certainly weren't new types of roles for women, even the whole "let's just lazily replace a male character with a woman" had been done many times before, hell even the lets take a villain who was normally his male archfoe and have him be a woman who wants to shag him was done with the female Moriarty pre Missy.
As I've also been over Missy if anything was a step back for women! For decades female villains were always portrayed as femme fatales, who could only threaten men via their sexuality, rather than force or intellect like the male villains due to the idea that women could never threaten men those ways, and their entire motivation was wanting the male heroes D because duh all women want men to hold them in the night, and they were also always portrayed as not being as bad because women are more delicate, simple, cute creatures LOL. They were horny writers bad girl fantasies more than genuine villains to be honest.
The 60s Adam West Batman show took the piss out of that sexist cliche, that's how out of date it was even then. Our very own Paloma Faith outright said she would not play a female villain like this in Pennyworth. (Gee another actor putting their foot down, eh Capaldi? I'll give you that Paloma's more of a man than you were LOL.)
Missy meanwhile embodies this cliche perfectly, and what makes her even worse than other examples is she is a female version of a male character that wasn't like that at all! That's basically saying that's what female villains always have to be, even if they were once men with a completely different characterisation. You couldn't have the female Master still want power like the male one could you? No, no, no she has to now be all about her fella.
BTW here's what your friend Moffat had to say about women.
There’s this issue you’re not allowed to discuss: that women are needy. Men can go for longer, more happily, without women. That’s the truth. We don’t, as little boys, play at being married – we try to avoid it for as long as possible. Meanwhile women are out there hunting for husbands.”
Completely explains Missy doesn't it? PS I also find it hilarious that far from making people more welcome, a bisexual, biracial woman Claudia Boleyn was fired and blacklisted from DW magazine because she wanted to say that she thought the way Moffat wrote women like that was outdated and sexist.
The 90s alone meanwhile, 20 years before Missy gave us badass female villains who could threaten men in numerous ways, who had grand plans and ambitions like their male counterparts, and weren't interested in the male hero at all, and if they were sexual, then it was in a threatening, predatory way rather than just a guys fantasy of taming a bad girl.
Again Capaldi here's a quote from my favourite female villain of all time, Alti from Xena. Here she tells Xena about her plans to control dark magic.
You want to know what they (her magics) are. Your friend you told me about, Lao Ma, her powers come from denial, self sacrifice, from the light. That's not for people like you and me. I want to tap into the heart of darkness. The sheer, naked will behind all craving. The hatred and violence. I'll become the face of death itself, capable of destroying not only a person's body, but their soul. Help me, and I'll make you Destroyer of Nations.
Now let's see what your fabulous female villain Missy, that scares away misogynists like me from the franchise's motivations are?
DOCTOR: Who maintains your heart?
MISSY: My heart is maintained by the Doctor.
DOCTOR: Doctor who?
DOCTOR: Clara. Clara. Clara. I've got to get Clara!
(The Doctor runs to the lift door.)
MISSY: Oh, Clara, Clara, Clara! You know I should shoot you in a jealous rage. Now, wouldn't that be sexy?
MISSY: You know who I am. I told you. You felt it. Surely you did.
DOCTOR: Two hearts.
MISSY: And both of them yours.
DOCTOR: Why are you doing this?
MISSY: I need you to know we're not so different. I need my friend back
MISSY: I know traps, traps are my way of flirting.
DOCTOR: See, that's what I'm trying to teach you, Missy. You understand the universe, you see it and you grasp it, but you've never learned to hear the music.
(The Tardis dematerialises. A rainbow appears. Back in the now, little Judy runs up to the remains of the Cairn, which we now know is just the doorway as distant Pictish music plays. Later, the music is also playing in the Tardis, and a tear is rolling down Missy's face. The music stops. The Doctor and Missy are alone.)
MISSY: I don't even know why I'm crying. Why? Why do I keep doing that now?
DOCTOR: The alternative is that this is for real, and it's time for us to become friends again.
MISSY: Do you think so?
(She reaches for him but he steps back. Pause, and then he takes her hands in his.)
DOCTOR: I don't know. That's the trouble with hope. It's hard to resist.
Yeah I don't know how I can cope with such a strong, powerful, threatening female villain like that Capaldi. You're right, I must just be a sexist.
