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Post by ClockworkOcean on Mar 14, 2024 23:52:10 GMT
Decent:
The Uniquiet Dead
Dalek
The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances
Some good bits:
The Parting of the Ways
Shite:
The rest
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Post by Ludders II on Mar 15, 2024 1:12:12 GMT
WATCHABLE ON A GOOD DAY
Dalek
The Unquiet Dead
AS ABOVE, BUT HEAVILY COMPROMISED BY BARROWMAN
Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways
The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances
COULD'VE WORKED, BUT DAVIES....
Rose
Father's Day
SHITE/DON'T BOTHER
All the rest
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Post by rushy on Mar 15, 2024 1:53:44 GMT
EXCELLENT
The Unquiet Dead
Aliens of London/World War Three
Dalek
The Long Game
Father's Day
The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances
Boom Town
Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways
OK
Rose
The End of the World
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Post by The Yak Emperor on Mar 15, 2024 2:07:47 GMT
I love Rose for being a quirky bit of early 2000s British sci-fi, but yeah it is a bit iffy in retrospect
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Post by rushy on Mar 15, 2024 2:19:44 GMT
and yet it's still better than Spearhead from Space, and that's a hill I will die on
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Post by Ludders II on Mar 15, 2024 2:38:09 GMT
and yet it's still better than Spearhead from Space, and that's a hill I will die on The internet doesn't have enough lol emojis for this. 😉 |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Mar 16, 2024 11:46:17 GMT
and yet it's still better than Spearhead from Space, and that's a hill I will die on Out of curiosity, how? |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Mar 16, 2024 11:59:09 GMT
and yet it's still better than Spearhead from Space, and that's a hill I will die on Out of curiosity, how?  "THE WORLD-BUILDING IN THAT STORY IS PHENOMENAL. THE WAY THE AUTONS ARE NOW "LIVING PLASTIC CREATURES" AND THE NESTENE CONSCIOUSNESS HAS COME TO EARTH TO CONSUME PLASTIC AND THEREFORE MAY AS WELL HAVE STAYED AT HOME AND EATEN ITSELF. THUS EFFECTIVELY FUNCTIONING AS AN ALLEGORY FOR THE PROGRESSION OF DAVIES WHO ITSELF. THE FORESIGHT AND DEVELOPMENT ARE REALLY REMARKABLE..." |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Mar 16, 2024 12:04:56 GMT
In any event, here's my (approximate) ranking:
Entertaining on a good day, despite tonal flaws and pointless innuendoes
The Unquiet Dead
The Empty Child/ The Doctor Dances
Hugely flawed (and shite in places), but not without merit
Dalek
Father's Day
Bad Wolf/ The Parting of the Ways (I know the ending is crap, as is the egregiously braindead celebration of Reality TV in the first episode. However, I don't mind the first half of Episode 2, and there are individual scenes which stand out. Eccleston is at his best when he is simply allowed to act instead of delivering poor dialogue, notable in the scene in Episode 1 in which he gazes upwards after presuming to have seen Rose be killed.)
Crap
Rose
The End of the World (My pick for the worst of the series. Absolute shite, with some of Eccleston's most awkward moments.)
Aliens of London/ World War Three
The Long Game
Boom Town
Interesting how all the stories in the bottom category were penned by the same writer...
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 16, 2024 12:05:46 GMT
To be honest I don't think he had any classics. I think his season was season 24 with a good budget, publicity, and aided by both nostalgia and it being the introduction to the format for new viewers, who've since let their nostalgia cloud their judgement.
I know I come over as an unimaginably arrogant, punchable c*nt with that. I reach full on David Gerrold levels of conceited snobbery I'm sure, but I don't care LOL.
The only decent episodes Eccelston has are Rose, Dalek, The Unquiet Dead, Father's Day and I suppose despite some cringey moments, the gas mask two parter is a decent enough horror story. None of those however are classics in my opinion as they are all let down by bad moments, and an awkward out of character Doctor. From all that cringe inducing talk about dancing in the gas mask two parter, to the Dalek shipping the Doctor and Rose, to the Doctor being too useless in Unquiet Dead and Rose.
The rest I'm sorry are bollocks. They range from as laughable and camp as anything in season 24 like the Slitheen, to boring like the Long Game, to disgusting like vomit cubes, farting aliens, guns up the ass, to RTD at his heat magazine, celeb culture, tedious worst like the Big Brother in space motif, to blubbery soap opera mush like have a good life in Parting of The Ways and Rose moaning about eating chips, to ridiculous deux machina's that make 0 sense like Rose being able to blow billions of the Daleks up with an obsolete piece of time lord tech, when the Daleks beat the Time Lords? To all of the above like in The End of the World LOL.
It pissed me off when new who fans came down hard on Matt Smith's last season as the show losing its way compared to this bollocks. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug as they say.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Mar 16, 2024 12:14:01 GMT
To be honest I don't think he had any classics. I think his season was season 24 with a good budget, publicity, and aided by both nostalgia and it being the introduction to the format for new viewers, who've since let their nostalgia cloud their judgement. I know I come over as an unimaginably arrogant, punchable c*nt with that. Not really. That statement effectively covers the entire run from 2005 to the present... |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Mar 16, 2024 12:52:55 GMT
To be honest I don't think he had any classics. I think his season was season 24 with a good budget, publicity, and aided by both nostalgia and it being the introduction to the format for new viewers, who've since let their nostalgia cloud their judgement. I know I come over as an unimaginably arrogant, punchable c*nt with that. I reach full on David Gerrold levels of conceited snobbery I'm sure, but I don't care LOL. The only decent episodes Eccelston has are Rose, Dalek, The Unquiet Dead, Father's Day and I suppose despite some cringey moments, the gas mask two parter is a decent enough horror story. None of those however are classics in my opinion as they are all let down by bad moments, and an awkward out of character Doctor. From all that cringe inducing talk about dancing in the gas mask two parter, to the Dalek shipping the Doctor and Rose, to the Doctor being too useless in Unquiet Dead and Rose. The rest I'm sorry are bollocks. They range from as laughable and camp as anything in season 24 like the Slitheen, to boring like the Long Game, to disgusting like vomit cubes, farting aliens, guns up the ass, to RTD at his heat magazine, celeb culture, tedious worst like the Big Brother in space motif, to blubbery soap opera mush like have a good life in Parting of The Ways and Rose moaning about eating chips, to ridiculous deux machina's that make 0 sense like Rose being able to blow billions of the Daleks up with an obsolete piece of time lord tech, when the Daleks beat the Time Lords? To all of the above like in The End of the World LOL. It pissed me off when new who fans came down hard on Matt Smith's last season as the show losing its way compared to this bollocks. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug as they say. Series 1 hasn't aged very well. I've never been fond of its visual look which I've always said looked like the production team had wiped vaseline all over the camera. Gold's music also sounds pretty crummy except for his work on the finale. I don't like the first half of Series 7, but the stuff with Clara is nice (except Nightmare in Silver which is utter shite) and lowkey. Aw, please come back Jenna. We didn't know how good we had it. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Mar 16, 2024 12:58:05 GMT
Spearhead is way better than Rose. I know the Doctor sleeps for half of it, but that's better than not being present at all  |
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 16, 2024 13:08:28 GMT
To be honest I don't think he had any classics. I think his season was season 24 with a good budget, publicity, and aided by both nostalgia and it being the introduction to the format for new viewers, who've since let their nostalgia cloud their judgement. I know I come over as an unimaginably arrogant, punchable c*nt with that. I reach full on David Gerrold levels of conceited snobbery I'm sure, but I don't care LOL. The only decent episodes Eccelston has are Rose, Dalek, The Unquiet Dead, Father's Day and I suppose despite some cringey moments, the gas mask two parter is a decent enough horror story. None of those however are classics in my opinion as they are all let down by bad moments, and an awkward out of character Doctor. From all that cringe inducing talk about dancing in the gas mask two parter, to the Dalek shipping the Doctor and Rose, to the Doctor being too useless in Unquiet Dead and Rose. The rest I'm sorry are bollocks. They range from as laughable and camp as anything in season 24 like the Slitheen, to boring like the Long Game, to disgusting like vomit cubes, farting aliens, guns up the ass, to RTD at his heat magazine, celeb culture, tedious worst like the Big Brother in space motif, to blubbery soap opera mush like have a good life in Parting of The Ways and Rose moaning about eating chips, to ridiculous deux machina's that make 0 sense like Rose being able to blow billions of the Daleks up with an obsolete piece of time lord tech, when the Daleks beat the Time Lords? To all of the above like in The End of the World LOL. It pissed me off when new who fans came down hard on Matt Smith's last season as the show losing its way compared to this bollocks. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug as they say. Series 1 hasn't aged very well. I've never been fond of its visual look which I've always said looked like the production team had wiped vaseline all over the camera. Gold's music also sounds pretty crummy except for his work on the finale. I don't like the first half of Series 7, but the stuff with Clara is nice (except Nightmare in Silver which is utter shite) and lowkey. Aw, please come back Jenna. We didn't know how good we had it. Check out Claudia Boleyn LOL. She looks sooooo like Jenna and has a lot of her same mannerisms it can be spooky. Though she also looks a bit like Maisie Williams too. I have a theory she is their love child abandoned after they eloped together in the TARDIS haha. I personally like most of series 7. The first half has some gems too. The western one is great fun, Asylum isn't quite as bad as it's been made out to be, and I'll defend Angels, despite the ludicrous statue of liberty scene as having some fantastic moments of horror and making the Angels genuinely scarier than any previous story, which is some feat. The only two I dislike are the Chibnall ones which are unimaginative and bland. His signature style. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Mar 16, 2024 13:21:31 GMT
Series 1 hasn't aged very well. I've never been fond of its visual look which I've always said looked like the production team had wiped vaseline all over the camera. Gold's music also sounds pretty crummy except for his work on the finale. I don't like the first half of Series 7, but the stuff with Clara is nice (except Nightmare in Silver which is utter shite) and lowkey. Aw, please come back Jenna. We didn't know how good we had it. Check out Claudia Boleyn LOL. She looks sooooo like Jenna and has a lot of her same mannerisms it can be spooky. Though she also looks a bit like Maisie Williams too. I have a theory she is their love child abandoned after they eloped together in the TARDIS haha. I personally like most of series 7. The first half has some gems too. The western one is great fun, Asylum isn't quite as bad as it's been made out to be, and I'll defend Angels, despite the ludicrous statue of liberty scene as having some fantastic moments of horror and making the Angels genuinely scarier than any previous story, which is some feat. The only two I dislike are the Chibnall ones which are unimaginative and bland. His signature style. Yeah, Claudia is lovely. I used to think Moffat's work in the RTD era was better, but apart from Blink (which is an all time great) I don't really love much. Some of Moffat's work in Smith's era is pretty solid in comparison. The Eleventh Hour (which I adored at the time), The Pandorica Opens and The Name of the Doctor are all among his strongest and most compelling. He's definitely not a bad writer. It's a shame he let people get to his head in the Capaldi era. |
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