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Post by Ludders II on Mar 8, 2024 10:20:26 GMT
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Post by Ludders II on Mar 8, 2024 10:46:11 GMT
This is nothing to do the original post, but it's like a different Waris to what we're seeing on this thread. It's actually really interesting, and doesn't even about Who until about 2/3rds in.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Mar 8, 2024 11:05:19 GMT
Re- the link above. I envy the people working on it today, because we worked with such parsimonious circumstances; no money for special effects. I watch now with a sense of awe! That's not quite what other people I know feel about it. My Dad thought the Meep looked appalling, and went as far as to say after sitting through The Star Beast: "You could feel the shiteness emanating from the screen at every minute." It’s extraordinarily loved by people who don’t fit in. I love Star Trek, but Star Trek is a military show. There’s a formality to it, an establishmentarianism. How did Davies watch Star Trek and come away from it perceiving it as "militaristic"? If you fail, you fail all other gay men at the same time. "I speak for all gay men! Hail the messiah!".
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Post by Clayton Dickman on Mar 8, 2024 11:25:22 GMT
I don’t believe Waris Hussein genuinely thinks this. Isn’t he on record of criticising NuWho’s excess of soap-opera romance and sudden “kissing”? He's changed his tune. "There is an element now, and I know we're living in a different era, of sexuality that has crept in. "The intriguing thing about the original person was that you never quite knew about him and there was a mystery and an unavailability about him. Now we've just had a recent rebirth and another girl has just joined as a companion, she actually snogged him." Waris Hussein, 2013.
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 9, 2024 12:05:12 GMT
If only Russell T Davies and his Fitzroy pals would follow suit. True, but at the same time, I think people treat genre TV/movies very differently nowadays. It's so much more prestigious. Probably more so than doing a successful Shakespeare adaptation, which would have been unthinkable in the 1970s. We might very well have seen ten seasons of Dicks/Letts if they'd thought it'd go on to define how they're remembered. It's hard to blame them for hitching their wagons to it with the amount of nerd adulation that surrounds them. Not true. DW was a hugely successful show in the 1970s. Dicks even said that he didn't want to leave it, but didn't want to be an old fart when everybody else was leaving. Meanwhile. I genuinely think RTD would be much happier leaving DW to AI writers as long as they were programmed to think the way he does, than in letting in new who writers who would disagree with his style. Same goes with all the Fitzroy Crowd.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Mar 9, 2024 14:07:56 GMT
Ugh. I just threw up in my mouth. What a nauseating, disingenuous read. Well, quite. Sorry Waris, but if the page was blank and an Unearthly Child was just 100 minutes of inspired, off-the-cuff extemporising why is it that the Coburn estate is able to block its release..? So Waris, you admit that you didn't understand it. Therefore, you were reliant on the script... Bit of a loaded, self-congratulatory question isn't it, Russell? Is Waris even allowed to say no..? Obviously, the answer is "yes" as watching people make a lobotomised, superficial, pale shadow of science fiction with nothing to say suddenly becomes inspiring if they're the right colour... Bollocks you did. The BBC did a Disney and revived "Doctor Who" for the money. As such, it was intended to run and run as long as it was profitable... All praise for the superficial elements of the production. What's good about the writing, Waris..?? Ah, Waris Hussein, the original creator of "Awe". I hope he remembered to copyright it... How disappointing. That's Waris Hussein off the (sadly short) list of Doctor Who alumni with any integrity. As others have already pointed out, it's a far cry from what he was saying a few years back. I can only assume the pod people paid him a visit in the night. Frankly, what i think we're seeing here is hype for a Waris Hussein-directed nuwho episode. A coup for Davies as Hussein's reputation extends beyond television and a nice paycheck for Hussein, with all the attendant revising of previous convictions (notably not quoted...) Oh, and i've got news for you Russell, all other gay men have been failed...
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Post by Bernard Marx on Mar 9, 2024 15:19:15 GMT
Frankly, what i think we're seeing here is hype for a Waris Hussein-directed nuwho episode. Given that every instalment of this sorrowful series (especially now) is stylistically indistinguishable from each other- anathema to any artistic vision- I don’t see what “hype” Davies could mileage out of this. Still, the appropriate dosage of “fantastic”, “brilliant” and “bonkers” could certainly do the trick…
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Post by UncleDeadly on Mar 9, 2024 15:25:58 GMT
Frankly, what i think we're seeing here is hype for a Waris Hussein-directed nuwho episode. Given that every instalment of this sorrowful series (especially now) is stylistically indistinguishable from each other- anathema to any artistic vision- I don’t see what “hype” Davies could mileage out of this. Still, the appropriate dosage of “fantastic” and “brilliant” could certainly do the trick… Most likely not, but we're dealing with Davies' ego and the BBC's identity politicking here. Both equally unreasoning...
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Post by UncleDeadly on Mar 9, 2024 15:28:35 GMT
the appropriate dosage of “fantastic”, “brilliant” and “bonkers” could certainly do the trick… That'll be the one... It's all empty press and attention-grabbing gimmickry. Desperation, in other words...
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 11, 2024 17:59:15 GMT
RTD's in the firing line from his fans for still being friends with John Barrowman and Tracy Ann Cyberman. Now I'd be a hypocrite if I said that RTD can't be friends with someone like Tracy Ann Cyberman. Sadly in the real world I know lots of people who are quite frankly ignorant gits about Palestine. Sometimes you just have to accept that a lot of people buy into the mainstream media's bullshit, and they don't have the time to look into it as deeply as others do, and they may also let tribalism rot their brain something which we are all guilty of at times. The ones I think are truly reprehensible are actual politicians who can make a difference and even journalists whose job is to constantly comment on politics. No excuse for them being duped. Tracy Ann Cyberman however it must be said has gone beyond just the usual actor or celeb saying stupid things. She has actively whipped up witch hunts against people on bogus anti semitism charges. Still even then I wouldn't stoop to her level and make her a pariah in the industry, however once again like with NPH, given RTD always bums about himself being such a progressive man to the point where he vandalizes classic characters like Davros, then for him to publicly associate and praise someone like her, a cheerleader for genocide, a woman who actually made out that Corbyn brought more disgrace to the Labour party due condemning Israel's slaughter of women and children, than Tony Blair, a man who orchestrated the invasion and destruction of Iraq for its oil, or Gordon Brown who basically sold off the NHS through his own corruption and incompetence is low and hypocritical. Same applies for John Barrowman, though again I think it's unfair to lump John in with NPH and Tracy Ann Cyberman. As we've been over lots of actors have done the same things and worse than John Barrowman, even on DW, but still again when you're getting rid of classic characters for being insensitive and you let your leading man wave his dick around, yeah not a good look Russell. He'll go the way of Joss Whedon any day now.
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