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Post by Spark Doll King on Dec 16, 2023 12:20:56 GMT
What a colossal waste of time and money.
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Post by burrunjor on Dec 16, 2023 12:33:45 GMT
What does everyone think of Millie's performance so far? Nothing special, but to be fair we haven't really seen her yet and nothing actively stood out to me as being poorly acted I'm just totally unenthused. I was more hyped up for Jodie Whittaker than for this. This might turn out to be alright, but it's not Doctor Who, not my Doctor Who. I remember her in Corrie. She was a decent actress in that. She played quite an interesting, complex character there. To be honest I'd probably have cast her based on that performance as a young Ace type companion. A little bit of a tear away who finds a place with the Doctor who is also basically a tear away LOL. Thing is though she'd need a Sylvester McCoy type character of a fun uncle, who seems like he'll be the reasonable authority figure, but will actually be even worse LOL for that to work. As it is I can see her and Ncuti instead basically being a teenage girl and her stereotypical gay best friend. Again I wouldn't say that because he is gay, but because that's how RTD seems to want to write him. It's honestly sad when you look at gay actors like Geoffrey Bayldon, Patrick Cargill and Nickolas Grace all of whom could have made great Doctors exactly like how I described of the crazy, stern, but fun uncle, and then you look at how RTD is botching it, The fact that she is another 21st century London girl as well doesn't exactly seem very original at this stage either. Also as I have said before I think her young age is a mistake as RTD is going to really have to tap into the zeitgeist for basically teenagers to make her relatable. Again in classic who you didn't have to make young companions relatable, as they could come from other planets, or an unspecified period in the future like Ace, Zoe, Susan, Nyssa etc. However Ruby is following that New Who template like Martha, Rose, and Clara of being someone the young girls are supposed to relate too, and being someone the young boys (or gay women LOL) can fall in love with. She's too young to be either of those things for Who's established audience of late 20- mid 30s (that's the age for the bulk of young DW fans these days, as the show hasn't been relevant to mainstream audiences since 2013.) So yeah RTD is going to have to really tap into the teenage audience for his tired old formula to work with Millie, and the guy is f*cking 60 and painfully out of touch. I mean Jesus even I who am half his age am out of touch when it comes to the teenage audience. I still think of Amy Winehouse, Lady Gaga, Lily Allen and Florence and the Machine as the modern, current singers the young folk are into. RTD meanwhile is about 3 decades behind me, and is still stuck in the 80s Manchester gay scene as seen with Ncuti dancing on tables. I don't think Millie is going to join the ranks of Ace, Leela, or Barbara or even Martha any time soon. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2023 12:50:44 GMT
Young blonde girl with daddy issues...yeah it's a formula but it worked before to enormous success
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Post by burrunjor on Dec 16, 2023 13:08:20 GMT
Young blonde girl with daddy issues...yeah it's a formula but it worked before to enormous success 18 years ago. That's like having a companion exactly like Jo Grant in the McCoy era. |
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Post by iank on Dec 16, 2023 21:11:07 GMT
New Who in a nutshell: Let's just do the same thing over and over and over and over...
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Post by rickdeckardredux on Dec 22, 2023 10:52:50 GMT
TFL have definitely trumped Disney on the promotional poster! ...and what's up with those finger nails Gatwa? Bit overkill?   ![]() |
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Post by Spark Doll King on Dec 22, 2023 16:33:19 GMT
I have to laugh at some of the YouTube comments. I mean the over all tune is ok but the lyrics are abysmal. It's the kind of lazy rhyming you'd find in a bad cartoon villain song.
I also adore the deluded optimism that some have that a song about Goblins eating a baby is going to get number 1 in the charts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 6:55:47 GMT
I expect I'll be made to sit through this on Xmas day with the family. Pray for me
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Post by iank on Dec 23, 2023 7:03:16 GMT
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Post by henshin on Dec 23, 2023 8:20:28 GMT
I'll watch.
The Kangz of Ruby Road.
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Post by burrunjor on Dec 23, 2023 11:52:48 GMT
I have to laugh at some of the YouTube comments. I mean the over all tune is ok but the lyrics are abysmal. It's the kind of lazy rhyming you'd find in a bad cartoon villain song. I also adore the deluded optimism that some have that a song about Goblins eating a baby is going to get number 1 in the charts. It didn't even crack the top 40. Really who was going to buy it. The singer has a good voice definitely, but it's not exactly something for DW fans, considering it is as you said a Disney badguy theme, whilst mainstream audiences aren't exactly going to want to buy a song about a baby being eaten. It was clearly as Clockwork pointed out, trying to be like Labyrinth which is about Goblins kidnapping a baby. However there is a difference. In Labyrinth it's not horrible. Yes he has kidnapped the baby and if it were real that would horrifying. Still the Goblin king just wants to raise the baby, and you think it might actually be a better life with David Bowie LOL. That wee baby will grow up to be a rockstar, get cool magic powers and spend his nights jamming with Bowie. What kid of the 70s and 80s wouldn't want that? As a result the song about kidnapping the baby is quite funny, and the baby itself is laughing in it, making it kind of cute and something that even people who don't know the film might listen to. This however, what the f*ck would you think if you heard it out context? Lyrics about crushing his bones, drinking his blood, and a vore line thrown in? As you say the delusion that this was going to get to number 1 was incredible. It's so funny that they still go on about how the show became too anoraky in the 80s, and its problem was that it wasn't in tune with the public, when there is this level of of disconnect between mainstream audiences and the fans in current who. Again though it's a double standard. In the 80s it was seen as pandering to straight white male fans, virgins, losers etc and that was an awful thing to do. Despite the fact that over 90 percent of its fanbase in America where it was at its most popular in the 80s was female, and despite the fact that the many LGBT people including our own Genkimonk who is bisexual and Yak Emperor who is gay hate RTD and view him as a negative impact on gay representation. They think that this is still the late 00s and that they have a young trendy female fanbase and LGBT fanbase and so they are throwing in what they think they want, even as it drives away mainstream audiences to a larger extent than ANYTHING in the 80s did. (The 80s only reached the same level of driving away audiences when it was put opposite Corrie on one side, and a World Cup qualifier on the other.) And that is being applauded often by the same fandom commandants of the 80s who berated JNT constantly. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 12:07:20 GMT
I have no desire to watch it. I watched the specials because I thought that RTD might have kept a few surprises hidden within, but alas he didn't and I can't be bothered to waste any more of my time on NuWho. I might treat myself to the Planet of Evil DVD next week instead. You can't go wrong with Tom.
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Post by burrunjor on Dec 23, 2023 14:33:47 GMT
I have no desire to watch it. I watched the specials because I thought that RTD might have kept a few surprises hidden within, but alas he didn't and I can't be bothered to waste any more of my time on NuWho. I might treat myself to the Planet of Evil DVD next week instead. You can't go wrong with Tom. . Not watching it either. Seen it all with new who at this stage. My insane wee niece will becoming round for a laugh. There will be plenty of goooood night, ding, ding, ding, ding and Rik Mayall impressions to make her laugh haha. I do confess though that I am sad I won't be able to show my niece and my nephew who is expected in January Doctor Who in the same way I was introduced to it as a child in the 90s as this completely innocent bit of escapism, because it has been tainted by those hacks and is now a battleground in the culture war. Still plenty of other things to show her. I can't wait to tell her about her Aunty who was a vampire slayer. |
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Post by iank on Dec 23, 2023 21:02:42 GMT
I couldn't watch if I wanted now, which I don't. I will likely watch a real one though.  |
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Post by RobFilth on Dec 24, 2023 1:29:07 GMT
I doubt I'll still be conscious to watch it when it comes on.
As soon as I've scoffed my dinner, I'll be aiming to drink myself into a coma.
If I am still awake at that point, I may throw it on to fall asleep to. (something I did half way through "The Giggle")
Not sure I can handle that moronic shit song in it without throwing something at the screen though.
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